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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

dav246 said:
That moment when you just got off the phone with your recruiter and it has been revealed that we read the scores wrong and I didn't actually pass....
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That’s weird, do you know what your real scores are if you don’t mind me asking?

It sounded like you were pretty confident on the test and fixed your past mistakes.
 
MotorCookie said:
That’s weird, do you know what your real scores are if you don’t mind me asking?

It sounded like you were pretty confident on the test and fixed your past mistakes.
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It was actually 6/5/6. The Marines want a 4/6/whatever and at least a 45 on the OAR.

Its okay, I still have 1 more go, I can redouble my efforts. And if worst comes to worst I can try for a competitive air slot in TBS. Now I just gotta make the big decision: Try again or go ground in January and try to grab one of them slots.
 
dav246 said:
Is that advice for the competitive slot, or in general? I could literally get that 300, and without qualifying scores they still wouldn't let me slide.
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Ive seen someone with lower scores than you get in with a 300 PFT but he also fit the Marine profile pretty damn well.

Your OR actually goes in front of a board and pitches you to the board. Not sure if they still do it that way but your OR will fly out to the board and actually pitch you to them.
 
So I am in need of advice again.

I have decided to take my last bite at the ASTB. Problem is I don't really know what to do anymore. Like in terms of improvement, the only thing I can think of is to practice for speedy perfection on the UAV (I got 2 or 3 wrong on the test, averaging 2.5 secs) and getting better at the sticks. And maybe it is that simple, but I don't really know. Like I am actually lost and don't really know what to do any more.

If I could get the full scoop on the three scores and what they mean/what they are comprised of/what specific subsections of the test relate to each one, maybe that would help me out. If somebody could explain it to me in explicit, accurate detail, or point me to the part of the forum where somebody already did, I would appreciate it. Yes, I have talked about it with my recruiter, but I retain more through reading than talking on the phone.
 
dav246 said:
So I am in need of advice again.

I have decided to take my last bite at the ASTB. Problem is I don't really know what to do anymore. Like in terms of improvement, the only thing I can think of is to practice for speedy perfection on the UAV (I got 2 or 3 wrong on the test, averaging 2.5 secs) and getting better at the sticks. And maybe it is that simple, but I don't really know. Like I am actually lost and don't really know what to do any more.

If I could get the full scoop on the three scores and what they mean/what they are comprised of/what specific subsections of the test relate to each one, maybe that would help me out. If somebody could explain it to me in explicit, accurate detail, or point me to the part of the forum where somebody already did, I would appreciate it. Yes, I have talked about it with my recruiter, but I retain more through reading than talking on the phone.
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Put more attention on your OAR score. Looking through this thread, it seems like most people who got 8's or 9's also scored in the upper-50s at least. I think someone's OAR score has an even bigger influence over their PFAR/FOFAR than what we think. Also, it looks like you need to work more on the ANIT section. Click this link and it will give you all the information for the ASTB available. Last page should answer your question.

https://officer.marines.com/docs/oso/aviation/ASTB_Overview.pdf
 
Dinosaurologist said:
Put more attention on your OAR score. Looking through this thread, it seems like most people who got 8's or 9's also scored in the upper-50s at least. I think someone's OAR score has an even bigger influence over their PFAR/FOFAR than what we think. Also, it looks like you need to work more on the ANIT section. Click this link and it will give you all the information for the ASTB available. Last page should answer your question.

https://officer.marines.com/docs/oso/aviation/ASTB_Overview.pdf
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Thanks Dino. And update: I am going to go for one of those competitive air slots after all and take my final shot during TBS. That gives me more time for everything, and gets my ass in the door before my medical waivers expire. And from what I read from that link, it looks like I really need to grind the math and maybe get some nominal PBM inprovements, so I am gonna need that extra time.
 
dav246 said:
Thanks Dino. And update: I am going to go for one of those competitive air slots after all and take my final shot during TBS. That gives me more time for everything, and gets my ass in the door before my medical waivers expire. And from what I read from that link, it looks like I really need to grind the math and maybe get some nominal PBM inprovements, so I am gonna need that extra time.
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Best of luck! If you're looking for some extra motivation, look up on YouTube "Dave Burke Jocko Podcast 69". Burke was a Marine Aviator and was a senior instructor at TOPGUN for a few years. He's legit. Listen to the podcast, but he went in on a ground contract and ended up doing well enough at TBS to get to select one of those air slots.
 
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dav246 said:
So I am in need of advice again.

I have decided to take my last bite at the ASTB. Problem is I don't really know what to do anymore. Like in terms of improvement, the only thing I can think of is to practice for speedy perfection on the UAV (I got 2 or 3 wrong on the test, averaging 2.5 secs) and getting better at the sticks. And maybe it is that simple, but I don't really know. Like I am actually lost and don't really know what to do any more.

If I could get the full scoop on the three scores and what they mean/what they are comprised of/what specific subsections of the test relate to each one, maybe that would help me out. If somebody could explain it to me in explicit, accurate detail, or point me to the part of the forum where somebody already did, I would appreciate it. Yes, I have talked about it with my recruiter, but I retain more through reading than talking on the phone.
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Get 0 wrong on UAV with less than 2 seconds if you can. When you practice the stick and throttle on Jantzen's sim, how big of a screen do you use? Laptop size or larger desktop monitor? The larger the monitor the harder the sim will be, so if you're using something like a laptop it would probably be a good idea to try practicing on a larger monitor. You could also be weak on the ANIT. How did you feel about the ANIT portion of the test? Perhaps you made some mistakes on the dichotic listening? On my first attempt, I forgot that left hand is for odd numbers and right hand is for even. Speed and accuracy in that section are important also.

Like Dinosaur said, try focusing more on OAR too. What do you feel weak in when it comes to that section? For me it was math, so I really focused heavily on math before my second test attempt. I think the general consensus is that math plays a huge role in every one of the scores.
 
MotorCookie said:
Get 0 wrong on UAV with less than 2 seconds if you can. When you practice the stick and throttle on Jantzen's sim, how big of a screen do you use? Laptop size or larger desktop monitor? The larger the monitor the harder the sim will be, so if you're using something like a laptop it would probably be a good idea to try practicing on a larger monitor. You could also be weak on the ANIT. How did you feel about the ANIT portion of the test? Perhaps you made some mistakes on the dichotic listening? On my first attempt, I forgot that left hand is for odd numbers and right hand is for even. Speed and accuracy in that section are important also.

Like Dinosaur said, try focusing more on OAR too. What do you feel weak in when it comes to that section? For me it was math, so I really focused heavily on math before my second test attempt. I think the general consensus is that math plays a huge role in every one of the scores.
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I was using my Laptop, a Thinkpad X230. I don't have anything bigger sadly, but I found that it translated over to the actual test well enough. I felt great about the ANIT, there was literally only one question that I didn't know. As far as I know, I did not make any mistakes on the Listening parts, could be wrong about that.

My weakness is most certainly Math, always has been. I felt much more prepared for it my second time, gonna really start grinding it.

My "problem"/situation is many fold: First, I am 25 years old and only just recently came out of DODMERB hell, where I langished for a stupid ammount of time. For the third ASTB attempt, I would have to wait 60 days, and then get NOMI'd, then wait for the next slot. So not only wait for god knows how long, but also risk falling back into DODMERB hell as my two medical waivers expire. And honestly, I would rather shovel shit.

I figure my best shot at this point is gun for a competitive spot out of ground school. I only have one more round, and I want to make it count while also not shooting myself in the foot.
 
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