exNavyOffRec
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OSO is USMC, OR is USN, with the USN it is one big pool.
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Nohopenaldo
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Got it thanks! You are right, i meant to say OR.
Nohopenaldo
New Member
I quick, but unauthenticated google search, says around 150-250 SNA for attrition purposes. Could be more or could be less. assuming the best case scenario of 250/6 that would be 40 per board give or take. This is an estimated number though
You also have to remember that people are going ISEL throughout the year too.
Nohopenaldo
New Member
I believe that number is taking into account everything. ISEL is just directly taking a slot from the available slots for the FY
What type of math did you get if you don't mind me asking?
First off you guys are great. Once a day I would read the forum and it did more for me than any practice worksheet.
I just took my test today, 45 5/6/6. Applying for SNA
Have not heard back from recruiter so I am not optimistic about my scores (first attempt btw). I have 5 years of flight experience and a bachelor of science above a 3.0 so I hope it helps.
Math - DO. NOT. RUSH. I was kicked out with 20 minutes to go thinking I had to fly through them. Was given geometry, algebra, and probability.
Reading - BORING. All passages were about military talk for boring procedures. Felt good but wanted it to end.
Mech - Easier than I thought. No math all theory. Got stumped on some electrical stuff with AC and DC currents.
ANIT - I have a big flight background but the boat terms got me.
NATFI- I don't get the point of this
PBM-
Missed 2 on the UAV with about 1.5ish seconds. ASTB app made this easy.
For the terrain association, it’s easier on test. A lot of straight lines and simpler maps.
Dichotic listening is just like app. The headset at the testing center blew out my ears it was so loud. Tilt your head to the target ear.
Joystick and Throttle- I did not use a thrustmaster at home. It started easy with just throttle and slowly added more till you had your hands full with multi tasking. Get busy with your scan, do not focus on just the flying plane or the throttle, be busy.
I missed the first emergency situation. I feel if I memorized it rather then reading what I wrote down it would have been faster.
Final thoughts:
Should I retest? Any thoughts? Trying to apply for August board. I believe the ASTB is a test of merit to see if you are willing to dedicate studying time and energy. They might be trying to see if you want it bad enough and are the "studying type". I will continue to monitor the Excel sheet and the forum on if I need a retest.
I just took my test today, 45 5/6/6. Applying for SNA
Have not heard back from recruiter so I am not optimistic about my scores (first attempt btw). I have 5 years of flight experience and a bachelor of science above a 3.0 so I hope it helps.
Math - DO. NOT. RUSH. I was kicked out with 20 minutes to go thinking I had to fly through them. Was given geometry, algebra, and probability.
Reading - BORING. All passages were about military talk for boring procedures. Felt good but wanted it to end.
Mech - Easier than I thought. No math all theory. Got stumped on some electrical stuff with AC and DC currents.
ANIT - I have a big flight background but the boat terms got me.
NATFI- I don't get the point of this
PBM-
Missed 2 on the UAV with about 1.5ish seconds. ASTB app made this easy.
For the terrain association, it’s easier on test. A lot of straight lines and simpler maps.
Dichotic listening is just like app. The headset at the testing center blew out my ears it was so loud. Tilt your head to the target ear.
Joystick and Throttle- I did not use a thrustmaster at home. It started easy with just throttle and slowly added more till you had your hands full with multi tasking. Get busy with your scan, do not focus on just the flying plane or the throttle, be busy.
I missed the first emergency situation. I feel if I memorized it rather then reading what I wrote down it would have been faster.
Final thoughts:
Should I retest? Any thoughts? Trying to apply for August board. I believe the ASTB is a test of merit to see if you are willing to dedicate studying time and energy. They might be trying to see if you want it bad enough and are the "studying type". I will continue to monitor the Excel sheet and the forum on if I need a retest.
For those of you who have taken the test, would you say kinetics and kinematics is helpful to know? I'm moving through the mechanical section of the ASTB Prep app right now, but I've noticed many people say they didn't get any math on the mechanical section of the exam, which I feel the kinetics and kinematics topics of the app focus heavily on.
Should I instead shift my focus to the machine topics in the app? Or is kinetics and kinematics still essential to know for the exam?
Should I instead shift my focus to the machine topics in the app? Or is kinetics and kinematics still essential to know for the exam?
Know the theory not the math. "At point is the ball at its slowest point" and "Which graph represents the velocity of the ball over time"
SonaldoBallond'Or
New Member
Took the OAR for the first time today after about 2 weeks of studying for 3-4 hours a day and got a 60. I'm applying for SWO with a 3.3 GPA in econ. Certainly benefited from everyone's contribution to this forum so thank you all! Told my family I was shooting for a 60 and was happy to get it but also disappointed because I felt I left easy points on the board. I didn't finish the reading or mechanical section 🥹
1) If I can impart anything on the people of this sub studying for this exam, PRACTICE WITH A TIMER. I didn't finish the reading or mechanical sections because I stayed on questions for too long. If you do not know something, move on! I spent probably 4-5 minutes on a single mechanical question. No mechanical question is difficult enough to warrant that amount of time. Left me 10 minutes to speed run the rest. Annoyed just thinking about it. I did not take a single timed section before taking the exam or know how many questions were in each section. Truly idiotic.
2) IMO all of the information you need to do well is within this forum and the Kyle and Gomez study drives.
1) If I can impart anything on the people of this sub studying for this exam, PRACTICE WITH A TIMER. I didn't finish the reading or mechanical sections because I stayed on questions for too long. If you do not know something, move on! I spent probably 4-5 minutes on a single mechanical question. No mechanical question is difficult enough to warrant that amount of time. Left me 10 minutes to speed run the rest. Annoyed just thinking about it. I did not take a single timed section before taking the exam or know how many questions were in each section. Truly idiotic.
2) IMO all of the information you need to do well is within this forum and the Kyle and Gomez study drives.
That makes more sense. Thank you!
FloridaExport
Member
Evening everybody, took the ASTB today proud to say I got I-SEL
OAR: 56
AQR: 7
PFAR: 8
FOFAR: 8
LPSS: 80
GPA: 3.3
Major: International Relations
Preface:
I studied for 6 months which in my opinion is way too much. I had to get LASIK and I had to reschedule my exam due to the test crashing on me during the reading comprehension. Which worked in my favor because the nerves got the best of me and I messed up on some very easy math problems. I have been out of school for 4 years and had always believed I was bad at math so I had a lot of work ahead of me. I would suggest 3 months of hard studying MAX if you fall into the aforementioned buckets. That being said I studied EVERY second I could in and out of work flashcards, UAV, Terrain association, practice tests, Jantzem sim etc. EVERYTHING you need can be found on this forum.
DISCLAIMER:
Get what you need from this forum and then log out. You will get overwhelmed with all the info on here. Everybody has a different experience with some similarities but yours will be your own. Get the gouge, get out and focus, do not lurk do not linger unless you have a question that has an objective answer. If you do, it has probably already been asked and answered. Nobody knows what you will see on your test not even your recruiter.
Math:
Lots of algebraic equations, lots of exponents, fractions, 1 work together problem, roots cubed and squared, geometry "what is the radius of a sphere if its volume is X, perimeters and areas of basic shapes, lots and lots of probability (dice, cards, marbles) get comfortable with these concepts you'll be ok. No logs, mixture, DRT or matrices problems for me. I got kicked out early and I got the last question correct. I did not study effectively for math imo very scattered and unorganized, as mentioned earlier I was bad at math so I had a lot to work on. Custom math tests on ASTB prep app is good to practice problem areas but Gomez gouge covers the material you really need as well as the 114 question gouge. If you're stuck on a concept organic chem tutor has a video on it, i'll link his channel below. Kicked out early.
Reading:
Boring as hell. I read a lot and my major was mainly research and argument based so I was fine. Hit full time.
Mech:
Never took a physics class in my life (did not have to take in high school due to administrative error and it bit me in the ass). This part of the test surprised me the most. I did a lot of the ASTB prep exams but there are very minimal calculations. It just asks you questions on basic physics principles such as simple machines, atmospheric pressure, Bernoulli's principle, lots of electrical for me, formulas for basic physics concepts, etc. Learn how to calculate voltage, resistance and current. Don't be like me, I did not read any gouge. I learned by making mistakes and watching youtube videos very time consuming. Gouge has all the meat and potatoes. ASTB curriculum helped put concepts to use. If you can try and experiment with the concepts that are being taught. Hit full time.
ANIT:
ANIT flashcards definitely helped with understanding a lot of concepts, but I learned a lot by just being interested in Aviation. I even took the practice written exam on sporty's flight school. Kinda blacked out on this section though. I know that none of my questions were history based mostly aviation concepts like advanced aerodynamics, which control surfaces effect plane action etc. and some naval questions. I still suggest hitting flashcards hard and if you have time, watch the MIT flight school playlist on YT ( you can skip the introductory video). Hit full time.
Break:
Do pushups to relieve stress, eat a snack, drink water, go to the bathroom. Take advantage its your day they want you to succeed.
NATFI:
People say this is the part of the test that destroys your ego. If you know who you are (at least who you are now) you'll be fine just answer honestly. A lot of statements will and won't apply to you. Use this time as an extended break.
DLT:
My headphones were ok, could've been better, but it was manageable. Missed a few but I did alright, make sure to lean your head and do your callouts, you will be doing this as a Pilot or NFO anyway so get used to it. Ex: When the ear would switch I would say "Switching to right ear" lean my head to the right and call out whatever I heard in my right ear and the same for my left when it switched. Also make sure that the ear muff is on the corrrect ear and then check again.
UAV:
I missed two, I was really trying to hit sub 2 sec time. I ignored my mistakes, moved forward, keep a short memory for this portion of the exam. Do not use the compass it will slow you down, the test tracks your reaction time. After each answer move your mouse back to the center of the 4 points reduces time needed to go from one point to another.
Tracking:
Get used to the sensitivity during the practice portion before each test they're long enough. Its like playing MW2 with your sensitivity at 10. If you've practiced on the Jantzen sim on hard the test will be easy. If you haven't invest in a X52 HOTAS and have fun with it. The only tip I can give here is to relax, dont white knuckle the stick and throttle, and unclench your ass. This might be TMI but the suction cups of the stick and throttle were dusty causing it to slide everywhere so I wiped it away with saliva (I did not lick the suction cups) and the stick and throttle were able to stabilize so I could be as comfortable as possible.
DLT + Tracking:
LISTENING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. LISTENING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. LISTENING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
Read that again. I will say that with enough practice tracking you'll be so focused on the listening you will perform better at tracking and you'll hit the ever coveted zone.
Emergency Procedures:
Read the instructions carefully and write down the emergency procedures. I messed up one emergency procedure which I think knocked my AQR down. Anticipate the next procedure so you could do small adjustments so it does not effect your tracking. Read the instructions adjust your knobs. Again short memory keep moving forward dont linger on mistakes.
Terrain Association:
I dont care how good you think you are at this, use the pencil trick. This video gives a nice walkthrough on tricks to pass. I will not lie i do not know how well I did I was running on fumes at this point but its much easier on the test than it is on the ASTB app.
Summary:
Study hard but dont study for six months you'll do more harm than good 3 is more than enough. Use every trick in the book to get every advantage you can get. Most of the users here want to be a pilot and we're all competing for a seat. That tv show can wait, your friends are going out next weekend and if you're not feeling go through the motions you'll learn/retain something. On test day bring your own pencils and eraser, bring a big water bottle, bring trail mix and do pushups on your break to relieve stress. Eat well, rest correctly, stay motivated and don't be nervous you can take this test three times.
Resources:
Gomez Drive
OAR Math Gouge
ASTB Prep App - if you have a mac and wondering how to set it up PM me
Kuta Software - Free Worksheets
ANIT Flashcards
My Gouge- just some extra worksheets I found but a lot are from Kuta/Gomez
MIT Flight School playlist
Updated Jantzen Sim
Organic Chem Tutor
Sportys Flight School written exam
OAR: 56
AQR: 7
PFAR: 8
FOFAR: 8
LPSS: 80
GPA: 3.3
Major: International Relations
Preface:
I studied for 6 months which in my opinion is way too much. I had to get LASIK and I had to reschedule my exam due to the test crashing on me during the reading comprehension. Which worked in my favor because the nerves got the best of me and I messed up on some very easy math problems. I have been out of school for 4 years and had always believed I was bad at math so I had a lot of work ahead of me. I would suggest 3 months of hard studying MAX if you fall into the aforementioned buckets. That being said I studied EVERY second I could in and out of work flashcards, UAV, Terrain association, practice tests, Jantzem sim etc. EVERYTHING you need can be found on this forum.
DISCLAIMER:
Get what you need from this forum and then log out. You will get overwhelmed with all the info on here. Everybody has a different experience with some similarities but yours will be your own. Get the gouge, get out and focus, do not lurk do not linger unless you have a question that has an objective answer. If you do, it has probably already been asked and answered. Nobody knows what you will see on your test not even your recruiter.
Math:
Lots of algebraic equations, lots of exponents, fractions, 1 work together problem, roots cubed and squared, geometry "what is the radius of a sphere if its volume is X, perimeters and areas of basic shapes, lots and lots of probability (dice, cards, marbles) get comfortable with these concepts you'll be ok. No logs, mixture, DRT or matrices problems for me. I got kicked out early and I got the last question correct. I did not study effectively for math imo very scattered and unorganized, as mentioned earlier I was bad at math so I had a lot to work on. Custom math tests on ASTB prep app is good to practice problem areas but Gomez gouge covers the material you really need as well as the 114 question gouge. If you're stuck on a concept organic chem tutor has a video on it, i'll link his channel below. Kicked out early.
Reading:
Boring as hell. I read a lot and my major was mainly research and argument based so I was fine. Hit full time.
Mech:
Never took a physics class in my life (did not have to take in high school due to administrative error and it bit me in the ass). This part of the test surprised me the most. I did a lot of the ASTB prep exams but there are very minimal calculations. It just asks you questions on basic physics principles such as simple machines, atmospheric pressure, Bernoulli's principle, lots of electrical for me, formulas for basic physics concepts, etc. Learn how to calculate voltage, resistance and current. Don't be like me, I did not read any gouge. I learned by making mistakes and watching youtube videos very time consuming. Gouge has all the meat and potatoes. ASTB curriculum helped put concepts to use. If you can try and experiment with the concepts that are being taught. Hit full time.
ANIT:
ANIT flashcards definitely helped with understanding a lot of concepts, but I learned a lot by just being interested in Aviation. I even took the practice written exam on sporty's flight school. Kinda blacked out on this section though. I know that none of my questions were history based mostly aviation concepts like advanced aerodynamics, which control surfaces effect plane action etc. and some naval questions. I still suggest hitting flashcards hard and if you have time, watch the MIT flight school playlist on YT ( you can skip the introductory video). Hit full time.
Break:
Do pushups to relieve stress, eat a snack, drink water, go to the bathroom. Take advantage its your day they want you to succeed.
NATFI:
People say this is the part of the test that destroys your ego. If you know who you are (at least who you are now) you'll be fine just answer honestly. A lot of statements will and won't apply to you. Use this time as an extended break.
DLT:
My headphones were ok, could've been better, but it was manageable. Missed a few but I did alright, make sure to lean your head and do your callouts, you will be doing this as a Pilot or NFO anyway so get used to it. Ex: When the ear would switch I would say "Switching to right ear" lean my head to the right and call out whatever I heard in my right ear and the same for my left when it switched. Also make sure that the ear muff is on the corrrect ear and then check again.
UAV:
I missed two, I was really trying to hit sub 2 sec time. I ignored my mistakes, moved forward, keep a short memory for this portion of the exam. Do not use the compass it will slow you down, the test tracks your reaction time. After each answer move your mouse back to the center of the 4 points reduces time needed to go from one point to another.
Tracking:
Get used to the sensitivity during the practice portion before each test they're long enough. Its like playing MW2 with your sensitivity at 10. If you've practiced on the Jantzen sim on hard the test will be easy. If you haven't invest in a X52 HOTAS and have fun with it. The only tip I can give here is to relax, dont white knuckle the stick and throttle, and unclench your ass. This might be TMI but the suction cups of the stick and throttle were dusty causing it to slide everywhere so I wiped it away with saliva (I did not lick the suction cups) and the stick and throttle were able to stabilize so I could be as comfortable as possible.
DLT + Tracking:
LISTENING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. LISTENING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. LISTENING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
Read that again. I will say that with enough practice tracking you'll be so focused on the listening you will perform better at tracking and you'll hit the ever coveted zone.
Emergency Procedures:
Read the instructions carefully and write down the emergency procedures. I messed up one emergency procedure which I think knocked my AQR down. Anticipate the next procedure so you could do small adjustments so it does not effect your tracking. Read the instructions adjust your knobs. Again short memory keep moving forward dont linger on mistakes.
Terrain Association:
I dont care how good you think you are at this, use the pencil trick. This video gives a nice walkthrough on tricks to pass. I will not lie i do not know how well I did I was running on fumes at this point but its much easier on the test than it is on the ASTB app.
Summary:
Study hard but dont study for six months you'll do more harm than good 3 is more than enough. Use every trick in the book to get every advantage you can get. Most of the users here want to be a pilot and we're all competing for a seat. That tv show can wait, your friends are going out next weekend and if you're not feeling go through the motions you'll learn/retain something. On test day bring your own pencils and eraser, bring a big water bottle, bring trail mix and do pushups on your break to relieve stress. Eat well, rest correctly, stay motivated and don't be nervous you can take this test three times.
Resources:
Gomez Drive
OAR Math Gouge
ASTB Prep App - if you have a mac and wondering how to set it up PM me
Kuta Software - Free Worksheets
ANIT Flashcards
My Gouge- just some extra worksheets I found but a lot are from Kuta/Gomez
MIT Flight School playlist
Updated Jantzen Sim
Organic Chem Tutor
Sportys Flight School written exam
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andrewdavidhall
New Member
Took it Monday, there was maybe one question on it and it was extremely basic. Just a FYI. Mine had lots with circuits and switches and volts.
I see. I've been seeing many people say they had circuits, volts, etc. recently so I'll make sure to cover those areas in my studies as well. Thanks!