cjwinton01
SNA Pro-Rec Y
I have a feeling the july board… if there is one, will be another slaughter.
I sure hope not. I’m worried about not getting selected on a board with low selection, then my recruiter making me wait 6 months to reapply, then missing a normal board where I had a better chance and getting selected.I have a feeling the july board… if there is one, will be another slaughter.
I’m in the same boat. I’m trying to decide if it’s worth trying for this next board or holding off and waiting for one with a better selection rate after this one. I have one attempt on the ASTB left and I would prefer not to have to blow it just to hopefully make another board a couple months down the roadI sure hope not. I’m worried about not getting selected on a board with low selection, then my recruiter making me wait 6 months to reapply, then missing a normal board where I had a better chance and getting selected.
Hopefully next time they select for SNA, it’s a normal selection
Flankspeed SharePoint. N33 Documents dashboard.Source?
I’ll update the spreadsheet and this thread with the new July info in a little. ThanksAccording to the most recent Dashboard, Pilot designator is Closed until the July board. The May board will be NFO select only and there are 12 remaining quotas for FY23 for NFO.
SNA "should" reopen for the July Board and NFO/SNA will be selected for FY24 however there are only about 60 slots left for SNA FY24 so another slaughter board.
Waiting to see an updated board schedule/dashboard (hopefully the next few weeks but could be as late as March ? thanks Navy)
I'm skipping this board, gonna study for and retake the ASTB and apply via ISPP. (Should have done that last board ?) between USAFA, STA21 and OCS this will be my 5th package. ASSUMING better competitive scores for ASTB, come July board and post I should be able to shotgun packages until they tell me not to return ?, got 3 years until I age out (without a waiver for pilot), and being a prior, as long as PRT/EVALS maintain/improve, plus officer board stuff, hell, I could have a second Bachelors and masters plus my PPS by then at this point, reconsideration packages won't be a problem.
As explained to me by my XO/CO this is a recurring Rollercoaster. We are in a low and slow due to over recruitment/covid/backups in Pcola and else where in the fleet. Once those smooth out or start moving there is gonna be a significant jump in quotas both NFO and SNA.
Keep chugging fellas, if you want it don't give up. Let the Navy tell you No.
The May board is NOT cancelled (as of now). 13900 designator is Closed though so they won't accept any SNA applications this board.I'd wait until there's official word of a cancelation. My recruiter hasn't said anything yet and this is the first time I'm hearing anything about this. With all the rumors that are spread on here, just wait until it's official.
Not saying the board being canceled isn't a possibility, just that it's better to wait for an official word instead of jumping to conclusions and setting your sights on the next board.
Why didnt you apply via ISPP last board?According to the most recent Dashboard, Pilot designator is Closed until the July board. The May board will be NFO select only and there are 12 remaining quotas for FY23 for NFO.
SNA "should" reopen for the July Board and NFO/SNA will be selected for FY24 however there are only about 60 slots left for SNA FY24 so another slaughter board.
Waiting to see an updated board schedule/dashboard (hopefully the next few weeks but could be as late as March ? thanks Navy)
I'm skipping this board, gonna study for and retake the ASTB and apply via ISPP. (Should have done that last board ?) between USAFA, STA21 and OCS this will be my 5th package. ASSUMING better competitive scores for ASTB, come July board and post I should be able to shotgun packages until they tell me not to return ?, got 3 years until I age out (without a waiver for pilot), and being a prior, as long as PRT/EVALS maintain/improve, plus officer board stuff, hell, I could have a second Bachelors and masters plus my PPS by then at this point, reconsideration packages won't be a problem.
As explained to me by my XO/CO this is a recurring Rollercoaster. We are in a low and slow due to over recruitment/covid/backups in Pcola and else where in the fleet. Once those smooth out or start moving there is gonna be a significant jump in quotas both NFO and SNA.
Keep chugging fellas, if you want it don't give up. Let the Navy tell you No.
Didn't know about it until I submitted. ??♂️Why didnt you apply via ISPP last board?
Yikes. Sorry to hear. I wish I had that opportunity but I just turned 32.Didn't know about it until I submitted. ??♂️
I think it wouldn't have mattered much last board. A few ISPP applicants didn't get it either. Weird but slaughter ??♂️Yikes. Sorry to hear. I wish I had that opportunity but I just turned 32.
This has not happened for SNA or SNFO in at least 15 years, it is in a way due to over selection due to lower recruiting numbers needed by NRC, that itself can be due to many things as you look at what you need at the end, you then work back to get the recruitment numbers making sure to include average attrition. If attrition drops in any pipeline you need less, if it goes up you need more, if the end numbers are lower less are needed as well.As explained to me by my XO/CO this is a recurring Rollercoaster. We are in a low and slow due to over recruitment/covid/backups in Pcola and else where in the fleet. Once those smooth out or start moving there is gonna be a significant jump in quotas both NFO and SNA.
Would you say that the Navy's pilot shortage is over then? Or is the problem more so that the pipeline is still backed up from issues that arose in 2020 and 2021?This has not happened for SNA or SNFO in at least 15 years, it is in a way due to over selection due to lower recruiting numbers needed by NRC, that itself can be due to many things as you look at what you need at the end, you then work back to get the recruitment numbers making sure to include average attrition. If attrition drops in any pipeline you need less, if it goes up you need more, if the end numbers are lower less are needed as well.
The numbers needed for FY 22 were essentially already shipped to OCS by the time the actual numbers needed came out, and when the backup issues hit where they needed to halt shipping most of FY 23 had already shipped.
Don't expect any jump in yearly quotas unless the USN decides they need more aviators in the fleet.
There never was a pilot shortage in regards to new accessions, it was a retention issue. You cannot fix retention issues with more new accessions since a newly winged pilot won't have the qualifications or experience as a LCDR looking at leaving AD.Would you say that the Navy's pilot shortage is over then? Or is the problem more so that the pipeline is still backed up from issues that arose in 2020 and 2021?