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Air Force v.s. Navy Culture Differences

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure. Sounds awful; especially when your contract counterparts are making way more than you are.

Exactly. Wonder who they tap for that job, particularly with the perennial shortage of IPs.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
Exactly. Wonder who they tap for that job, particularly with the perennial shortage of IPs.

AD RPA folks who went through URT as opposed to UPT who want to leave the 24/7 grind for a couple of years and for some reason or another didn't have an opportunity to be an FTU instructor. The URT pipeline is all sims after IFT, and the AF wants some uniformed folks in the evaluation and decision making processes- no contractor should have the power to fail a student out of any type of military flight school. I've always thought it was a bad idea to make the RPA pipelines (both in the USAF and the USMC) heavily reliant on traditional winged pilots. A community should be self sustaining, and should be able to train and qualify their own students.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure. Sounds awful; especially when your contract counterparts are making way more than you are.

The URT pipeline is all sim after IFT. There aren't nearly as many contractors as what we saw in primary/advanced.
 

gparks1989

Well-Known Member
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Contributor
The URT pipeline is all sim after IFT. There aren't nearly as many contractors as what we saw in primary/advanced.

Acronym overload. So the uniformed T-6 sim gig for the RPA pipeline...how much time do those guys (studs) spend in T-6 sims?
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
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None
Contributor
Acronym overload. So the uniformed T-6 sim gig for the RPA pipeline...how much time do those guys (studs) spend in T-6 sims?

All of it. They do pretty much the entire primary pipeline, except for forms and aerobatics, in the sim. How many hours that is? I don't know, 80 or 100 or so. Previous to this they get about 45 hours in a DA-20 in Pueblo, Co at IFT (IFS for us Yut/Navy types).



I still think everyone should do the full primary syllabus in the T-6, then branch to RPA/Helo/Jet/Maritime. let folks come in with an RPA contract so you don't get surprises. But that's expensive.
 
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