Another nail in the coffin of Old-School Naval Avaition..

[Swanee]

Dude are you serious???
It's fucking institutional and THAT is the problem...it isn't just one squadron or wing...it's EVERYWHERE.
The navy treats its personnel like they're a bunch of drunk, suicidal rapists.
Do the math-the sheer man hours alone for Adams class and the quarterly SAPR training.
Ween yourself off the Kool-Aid man. The dudes that live it every day are HATING life.
They don't hate the flying, they don't hate their bros-they hate the other bullshit...which is why dudes are getting out droves.
It's worse now then it has ever been. No doubt.

And with flight hours getting thinner, and bros disappearing it's not a surprise how things are.

 

[A7Dave]

1. Hey. Nasty. "Dude are you serious???"

Well then, get out and write a letter to Proceedings as to why you got out. Make your statement. Once you get to the other side, you'll have to deal with it out here. At least you don't have to salute the dumbasses that tell you to like it. The whole world has gone nuts. I just completed active shooter, sexual harassment and business ethics quarterly training tacked on to my other required training. Run hide, fight, and uh, don't tell a woman she looks good in a dress, and don't bribe customers. I'm a commercial pilot now. Not sure when I have time to bribe anyone other than my F/O for his catering selection. I fly with few women and they're my age. I'm too old for that crap. Active shooter? I've got 13 rounds of Federal HST ready for that, plus two reloads.

All of this training crap is not relevant to me just as it wasnt in my last month in the Navy I was on the 6th deck, in the stifling ammo lockers, with 500 of my fellow Air Department friends getting lectured on sexual harassment - on a ship with no women.

It may be worse now than 20 plus years ago. I admire you guys and gals for putting up with it. Clinton - Obama - same shit, different sandwich. Do your job and deal with it or get out. We need pilots, the more Navy the better. Yup, we still give the exUSAF guys crap. Even they get it. If Hillary wins, it is going to get even worse. The world has lost its mind. So far, aviation still self selects for a certain type of person. Our new hire classes are boringly similar. Guys and gals who like to shoot, hunt, ride Harley's, fly their planes, run Spartan races, work on their hot-rods, raise tons of kids, etc, etc. Very similar personalities. Just a sprinkling of Democrats, but they take the ribbing well.

Seriously. Get out and write a letter (never an email that can easily be forwarded) to your detailer or OP-05 (if that is who the DCNO Air Warfare is now) delineating how NAVAIR has let its pilot's down. Come on in, the water's fine.

 

[jmcquate]

Fuckin A Sluf Driver!!

 

[kmac]

For those interested in the message...

 

[Deleted member 24525]

1. Hey. Nasty. "Dude are you serious???"

Well then, get out and write a letter to Proceedings as to why you got out. Make your statement. Once you get to the other side, you'll have to deal with it out here. At least you don't have to salute the dumbasses that tell you to like it. The whole world has gone nuts. I just completed active shooter, sexual harassment and business ethics quarterly training tacked on to my other required training. Run hide, fight, and uh, don't tell a woman she looks good in a dress, and don't bribe customers. I'm a commercial pilot now. Not sure when I have time to bribe anyone other than my F/O for his catering selection. I fly with few women and they're my age. I'm too old for that crap. Active shooter? I've got 13 rounds of Federal HST ready for that, plus two reloads.

All of this training crap is not relevant to me just as it wasnt in my last month in the Navy I was on the 6th deck, in the stifling ammo lockers, with 500 of my fellow Air Department friends getting lectured on sexual harassment - on a ship with no women.

It may be worse now than 20 plus years ago. I admire you guys and gals for putting up with it. Clinton - Obama - same shit, different sandwich. Do your job and deal with it or get out. We need pilots, the more Navy the better. Yup, we still give the exUSAF guys crap. Even they get it. If Hillary wins, it is going to get even worse. The world has lost its mind. So far, aviation still self selects for a certain type of person. Our new hire classes are boringly similar. Guys and gals who like to shoot, hunt, ride Harley's, fly their planes, run Spartan races, work on their hot-rods, raise tons of kids, etc, etc. Very similar personalities. Just a sprinkling of Democrats, but they take the ribbing well.

Seriously. Get out and write a letter (never an email that can easily be forwarded) to your detailer or OP-05 (if that is who the DCNO Air Warfare is now) delineating how NAVAIR has let its pilot's down. Come on in, the water's fine.

Guess what...I did sack up and get out-
At FIFTEEN.
Write a letter? Like the other narcissists who think people actually give a shit? Like the 4 year SWO who wrote to T&P? The response?? "Oh those millennials"
I walked. I put my money where my mouth is.

 

[CAMike]

I'm a little baffled at the whole "Nail in the Coffin" scenario. I understand it, but it only makes us appear weak to our potential enemies. Seems counter productive to just about anyones mission. I work for a company that flies packages, not people, but at least our "progressive" INDOC is more palatable. Here is a test question snapshot of what happens in our non-navy work day. Even in CIVPAC, the nails continue to be drivin in, for all the wrong reasons. btw- I chose the first response just too see what kind of score I could get away with. I passed LOL!

Keep up the resistance! The pendulum will only begin to swing the other way when the leaders have had enough. The so called "Progressives" are on a mission to weaken both Private and Public sectors.

 

[Renegade One]

Any answer that just dismisses the described behaviors in a "training vignette" as "Hey, no big deal" ENTIRELY misses the point about victimhood and the narrative of same. You have been warned...