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Another "praise the Raptor" article

Deeps

New Member
Funding the F/A-22N Sea Raptor

The funding is easy!

Cancel the F-35 Lightening II and fill the resulting airframe shortage with F-22 variants, which I have recently suggested to the President, Secretary of Defense, USMC, USN and USAF (via their respective websites).
 

GO_AV8_DevilDog

Round 2...
Contributor
The funding is easy!

Cancel the F-35 Lightening II and fill the resulting airframe shortage with F-22 variants, which I have recently suggested to the President, Secretary of Defense, USMC, USN and USAF (via their respective websites).

Yes, The Marines will love that.

There is a reason The Corps is interested in the JSF B and not the F-22
I'll let you figure that out on your own.
 

DanMa1156

Is it baseball season yet?
pilot
Contributor
The funding is easy!

Cancel the F-35 Lightening II and fill the resulting airframe shortage with F-22 variants, which I have recently suggested to the President, Secretary of Defense, USMC, USN and USAF (via their respective websites).

I'm sure Britain, your stated country, would love this idea too.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
I think that in the end, the decision to up the -35 buy and end the -22 is better for the long-term health of US military aviation.

Unfortunately, it means we've put quite a bit down a sunk cost rathole.
 

Deeps

New Member
Brits and Marines!

Brits/Marines, STOL/VSTOL, Air Force/Navy it's all bollox when you can't afford the a/c you actually need let alone the ones you want.

My suggestion to cancel the F-35 was based on the "limited" premise already referred to way back in this thread, in that you only ever get what you pay for and always buy the best you can.

My old man told me and I have told my son ... never buy a cheap suit!

BTW - I'm an USAF brat and US citizen who served as a submariner in the RN and then as FDO2 on a "through-deck cruiser" as well as some FC and ATC work before moving in to a/c simulation with Hughes, Raytheon and E&S.
 

Beans

*1. Loins... GIRD
pilot
My suggestion to cancel the F-35 was based on the "limited" premise already referred to way back in this thread, in that you only ever get what you pay for and always buy the best you can.

It's good that you said "best" as opposed to "highest performance" or "fastest" or any other superlative. DoD has decided that the F-35 is "best." We can afford more, the application is broader both in and out of the US, and according to the DoD, those facts outweigh the lack in capability it may have vs the F-22. There you have it: our best fighter airplane.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
I'm all about quality over quantity, but if you can't afford to buy a reasonable number of the quality item, you're even more hosed. Blow all your money on ONE designer suit--see how far you get wearing the same damn suit to work every day, stinky.
 

HeyJoe

Fly Navy! ...or USMC
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Breaking News: Air Force front office article on F-22

SECAF and CSAF align to SECDEF's proposed end to F-22 production and go public with article in Washington Post. Baseops will be abuzz with this development!
 

Junkball

"I believe in ammunition"
pilot
Wow. Never thought we'd see the day. I think it's a shame we're only gettin 183 of them... with all that money sunk into R&D, we might as well reap the rewards of our investment.
 

PropAddict

Now with even more awesome!
pilot
Contributor
Wow. Never thought we'd see the day. I think it's a shame we're only gettin 183 of them... with all that money sunk into R&D, we might as well reap the rewards of our investment.

To really get them down just to a "reasonable" price, we'd have to buy many, many times the number that we could forseeably need, which is already more than the number we can realistically get funded. To make it a "rewarding" price per copy would mean massive numbers.

We have/will have a (small) bunch of world-beaters and the technology is already being built into other aircraft (e.g. JSF) that can be had more economically. Hemorraghing more $$$ would not seem to make it any more rewarding for us than cutting our losses now and making it up in 5-10 through other programs.
 
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