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Any Word On Api Wait?

SemperGumbi

Just a B guy.
pilot
Don't waste your time studying before hand for API. You don't even know what you should be studying, probably. I tried to a little and it was a complete waste. Some people get all about it and almost snub their nose at others for being "lazy" and not pre studying. Give me a break. API is not that tough. It really isn't. You have plenty of time each day to learn what you need if you want to put in the time.

Even for primary, after you actually start doing the things you need to study for you will learn 20X faster. When you haven't even smelled the mighty T-34 who the hell cares about a EPL? I learned EP's before Primary based on just the words in the PCL. THat was retarded, in hindsight. I had to basically relearn everything.

Just let the instructors teach you what you need to know, then study it. Maybe read the books over so they aren't totally new, but don't waste your time burning yourself out on material that means nothing to you now. There will be plenty of time to study hard.

And if someone says you are being lazy for soaking up rays and getting paid to relax, kick them in the junk.
 

TheBubba

I Can Has Leadership!
None
If you do study before API, all you need to do is scan the Aero-1 and Weather pubs the weekend you start. If you do read something in depth, it should only be the first couple of chapeters in Aero-1.

I didn't pre-study at all prior to API and did just fine... Primary, on the other hand... different beast.
 

S.O.B.

Registered User
pilot
Ask an API attrite if you should pre-study, especially when you needed around a 90 average to continue on. I personally wouldn’t take any chances or waste any time.
 

TheBubba

I Can Has Leadership!
None
S.O.B. said:
Ask an API attrite if you should pre-study, especially when you needed around a 90 average to continue on. I personally wouldn’t take any chances or waste any time.

No... you don't need a 90 average anymore. That ended a little over a year ago. I know a couple of pilots that are in primary right now and failed 2 exams while in API.
 

zippy

Freedom!
pilot
Contributor
TheBubba said:
No... you don't need a 90 average anymore. That ended a little over a year ago. I know a couple of pilots that are in primary right now and failed 2 exams while in API.

Perhaps they should have studied more prior...

There really is no excuse to fail exams in API- period. The two most common reasons I can think of is lack of effort, and lack of understanding. Both can be fixed- the resources are there, use your peers as much as you need.

Sure, go ahead and plan to do the mins and skate by through API, and go ahead and skate by in primary and advanced as well... It's not like this is your job or your future depends on your performance or anything. Also, the Navy doesn't ever make the same mistake twice- that whole 90+ average for a NSS that allowed you to continue, and came about with very little warning- that ended a year ago, its never going happen again... :rolleyes:
 

lboyer83

Registered User
Fezz CB said:
I have Day Zero tmrw.

I know this has been covered in the past but I just wanted to ask those who just recently got thru API academics. Whats was your strategy for studying? I know that only "I" know what works for me. But I just want to get a census of what worked for "other" people. Especially on the different subjects bc I know everyone has their own style of studying.

Anyways, I guess its a peace of mind kinda thing. Thanks all.

-Fezz


I just finished the academic part of API on Friday and this is my advice for studying:
Read through the material before class so you have some idea of what is going on, then focus on the EO's (Enabling Objectives). Every chapter has the EO's listed at the front of the chapter, these are basically the test questions. They're are a bunch of places to get gouge around here, but the "Coastie" cd is what I resommend. Some coast gaurd dude made it and it has ALL of the EO's and the answers already done for you. If you know the EO's you'll be money for the tests.
 

S.O.B.

Registered User
pilot
S.O.B. said:
Ask an API attrite if you should pre-study, especially when you needed around a 90 average to continue on. I personally wouldn’t take any chances or waste any time.

TheBubba said:
No... you don't need a 90 average anymore. That ended a little over a year ago. I know a couple of pilots that are in primary right now and failed 2 exams while in API.

That "when" indicates something that occurred in the past.


Again this is just me but I would not have wanted my on-wing reviewing my ATJ and thinking “this little sh#t downed two tests in API.” It’s just not going to set you up for success in the plane and even worse if you go to a board now you’ve set a trend of poor performance. . Oh yea, and heaven forbid something happens in the fleet and you go to a FNAB, guess what? They will look all the way back to API.
 

lboyer83

Registered User
skilax06md said:
i have a date scheduled june 23rd... anyone know what the waits gonna be if any?

also... when is the prt? like the first day you show up ? or when your api classes start... gagin when i should start doin those ol sit ups.. haha

andy

I only had to wait about 5 weeks to start because I did IFS in Ohio and am pilot-option. It changes from week to week, but as of right now you will generally wait 4-5 weeks from the day you check on board if you're pilot and a hell of a lot longer for FO's. They are backed up about 30 weeks right now. Also, the wait tends to be longer for married folks because they like to keep them around here to reduce the stress of moving them again. They don't care about moving single people around so when spots at Vance or Corpus open up for primary they will typically put them in for it before a married person with the same time on board.
So if you're a single pilot option you have the shortest wait...for now anyways;)
FYI: the PRT is run on and uneven chip-trail (half cedar chips half sand). It is much slower than running it on a track so if your times are at all close to the cut-off start working out now...the chip trail sucks.
 

lboyer83

Registered User
TheBubba said:
You still get paid. You can get a prat time job on top of the pay though... I'd suggest it. Does 2 things: more money and something to do. You could also get a stash job.

Cheers,
Bubba

I meant to say something about this on my last post, but forgot. Just so everyone knows, the CO put out that no one is to get part time jobs while on hold for API. They had problems with people not being available when randomly asked to come in for one reason or another. I know many people that still work part time anyways, just don't go walking around flight management (API control) talking about it...
 

SemperGumbi

Just a B guy.
pilot
While we are tlaking about API I should say this little piece of advice (this will help you do better on tests than studying): Don't erase on the test!

Their machine sucks and I knew a couple people who failed tests because of erasing on the bubble sheet. Getting them to go back and actually look at the answer shet takes an act of congress. One guy did pull it off and he went from a 76 and 78 on two tests to a 90-something on both. THis is no joke at all.

Makes you wonder how many 04 pilots would still be SNA instead of SWO if they would have been allowed to see their actual test sheets.

I know I had a few tests where I erased answers and ended up getting a much worse scrore than I thought I should have. But the response was always, "You passed...don't worry about it."
 
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