Applying to Jan board 2013

[exNavyOffRec]

I thought Intel was closed? Something about 50 going in with a goal of 7.

And I thought all unrestricted line officers had a TS, or at least pilots did.

The added a few billets that cleared the backlog, but FY13 is closed

 

[exNavyOffRec]

According to my recruiter, the difficulty of your degree is not considered. I bet the guys on the board would be influenced regardless because it's just human nature to do so. Every recruiter has stories of Hornet drivers with rock bottom GPAs. The point any OR I've talked to has made is that they will give more of their time for applications that are more likely to be accepted. Mine called me as much as I called him with updates regarding the progress of my package. He said with scores as high as mine, GPA is less likely to hold me back. Flight time is also considered.

He's an aviator and has put a bunch of pro-recs through. I don't know if he was embellishing, but he basically told me that when I go to board, whether it's in a month or in a year, I'm getting in. On those words, us two have nothing to worry about.

On the other hand, I'll remain a skeptic until I've got papers in my hands.

On average, over 3 years, I had more people selected/sent to OCS than any other recruiter in the US, I have NEVER seen a person with a 9 turned down, now I am saying that without knowing your drug/criminal history.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Grantspec, If I was in your situation, I would not worry one iota. OCS is "primarily" searching for technical degrees, and an engineering degree is as technical as you can get. Obtaining an Engineering Degree (technical) with a 2.9 GPA will carry much more weight at the Board versus a History Degree (non-technical) with a 3.7 GPA or even higher... In addtition, you blew your OAR/ASTB scores out of the water. I wouldn't be surprised if other communities are interested in you, and would select you to meet quotas if need be. I had a "shipmate" picked up for OCS for a designator he didn't even request on his 1420.1B just because his package was that strong. There are other mitigating factors which make a package "complete" but the foundation, base-line or filtering component for what OCS is looking for are Degree type, GPA, and OAR/ASTB scores. You have a great shot...

I find that odd, the boards are specific and not held at the same time and the people inputing the data at NRC don't make any changes, the exception is IDC.

I have seen it where an OR took it upon himself to add a designator to an application and that didn't go well.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

According to my recruiter, the difficulty of your degree is not considered. I bet the guys on the board would be influenced regardless because it's just human nature to do so. Every recruiter has stories of Hornet drivers with rock bottom GPAs. The point any OR I've talked to has made is that they will give more of their time for applications that are more likely to be accepted. Mine called me as much as I called him with updates regarding the progress of my package. He said with scores as high as mine, GPA is less likely to hold me back. Flight time is also considered.

He's an aviator and has put a bunch of pro-recs through. I don't know if he was embellishing, but he basically told me that when I go to board, whether it's in a month or in a year, I'm getting in. On those words, us two have nothing to worry about.

On the other hand, I'll remain a skeptic until I've got papers in my hands.

The degree's are given SOME weight, but if you have a 2.5 GPA in EE and another has history with 3.5 GPA it isn't going to help, but if GPA's are equal then the scales could be tipped.

In the past yes you would see guys with low GPA's become pilots, some of the retread OR's had stories of guys with 2.5's being accepted, those days are long gone for OCS applicants, you still see that with NROTC grads though.

Flight time is given little if any weight, and the board has put that out, several times, think of it as the same as tech/non tech degree perspective.

 

[LFCFan]

Yea...I too remember NavyOffRec telling us that 5's never get selected. 6 is still a stretch, too.

Personally, I am hoping they select for SNA with 6's because they know quite a bit might/probably will re designate to NFO if something comes up (medical or just prefer NFO). They have a lot of SNA slots and few NFO slots when I look at the "applicants identified" numbers....or maybe that is my wishful thinking.

Seriously, though...300 something SNA slots with 30 NFO slots. I cant be crazy to assume they select so many SNA's in the rationale of knowing many will re designate to fill up needed NFO's.

I think if 6s were a stretch that the "quality" pool cutoff would probably be a 7. Of course, I'm glad that my best score is for the PFAR. Also, NavyOffRec, could you clarify whether how much weight the AQR has? We've been throwing around a lot about scores without specifying if we necessarily mean both the AQR or just the PFAR/FOFAR for a given designator.

 

[TolgaK]

On average, over 3 years, I had more people selected/sent to OCS than any other recruiter in the US, I have NEVER seen a person with a 9 turned down, now I am saying that without knowing your drug/criminal history.

I have had no run-ins with the law whatsoever. Good to hear this.

 

[BDfan88]

NavyOffRec,

Say a person got selected for SNA but not NFO. If they get NAMI whammied at OCS, would they still be able to redesignate to NFO even though they werent selected for NFO at the board?

 

[MasterBates]

Depends on the nature of the Whammy.

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[nombrescreeno]

If you think you are going to be whammied, it doesn't hurt to go see a doc for whatever issue it is. Check out the Aeromedical guide too and bring it so your doctor knows and you know what to expect

People forget that SNFOs might not have the exact same vision requirements as SNAs, but aside from visual acuity and refractive error requirements and some other eye specific ones, they still have to pass the same color vision requirements, hearing, etc. as well as the non eye-related ones

Yea...I too remember NavyOffRec telling us that 5's never get selected. 6 is still a stretch, too.

Personally, I am hoping they select for SNA with 6's because they know quite a bit might/probably will re designate to NFO if something comes up (medical or just prefer NFO). They have a lot of SNA slots and few NFO slots when I look at the "applicants identified" numbers....or maybe that is my wishful thinking.

Seriously, though...300 something SNA slots with 30 NFO slots. I cant be crazy to assume they select so many SNA's in the rationale of knowing many will re designate to fill up needed NFO's.

Hmm where did you see those identified numbers?

 

[BDfan88]

Depends on the nature of the Whammy.

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For example, they are found to be outside refractive limits for SNA at OCS, but still within NFO limits.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

If you think you are going to be whammied, it doesn't hurt to go see a doc for whatever issue it is. Check out the Aeromedical guide too and bring it so your doctor knows and you know what to expect

People forget that SNFOs might not have the exact same vision requirements as SNAs, but aside from visual acuity and refractive error requirements and some other eye specific ones, they still have to pass the same color vision requirements, hearing, etc. as well as the non eye-related ones





Hmm where did you see those identified numbers?

The billets for FY13 were revised a bit it is now 300 and 100

Even people cleared by N3M have been NAMI Whammied, it all is up to the doc at NAMI, many things are at the subjective.

 

[Tycho_Brohe]

Hmm where did you see those identified numbers?

http://www.airwarriors.com/community/index.php?threads/ocs-status-fy-13.39176/page-5#post-716807

New numbers status as of today [October 10th], and this explains the Pilot/NFO/SWO board in December.

If a person is applying for Pilot or NFO you should have an excellent chance as they need many for FY13 and some for FY14.
IDC should now pick some for EVERY designator in February since they will pick some for FY14 as well but those with tech degrees will have the best shot.
One thing that happened the beginning of this years is goals went down, it is possible that goal adjustments could do the same thing, so like this year people could get pushed to another FY

SWO goal of 151, 150 identified
Surface ED goal of 3, 6 identified CLOSED FY13
Surface IP goal of 6, 4 identified
Surface Oceano goal of 5, 4 identified
Surface IW goal of 5, 4 identified
NFO goal of 119, 40 identified
Pilot goal of 309, 207 identified
EDO(SEGA) goal of 0, CLOSED FY13
AMDO goal of 7, 3 identified
IP goal of 0, 1 identified CLOSED FY13
IW goal of 14, 13 identified (this clears the backlog)
Intel goal of 18, 18 identified CLOSED FY13 (this clears the backlog)
PAO goal of 1, 0 identified only taking apps from those on AD
Oceano goal of 2, 1 identified
Cyberwarfare goal of 3, 2 identified
Supply goal of 77, 70 identified
CEC goal of 58, 52 identified

 

[LFCFan]

Previously these numbers were:

NFO goal of 119, 40 identified
Pilot goal of 309, 207 identified

So now they are 100, 40 identified (80 slots left) for NFO, and 300 pilot, 207 identified (93 slots left) for pilot in FY13, and this board can dip into FY14 a bit?

As always, thanks for the gouge.

 

[Tycho_Brohe]

Previously these numbers were:


So now they are 100, 40 identified (80 slots left) for NFO, and 300 pilot, 207 identified (93 slots left) for pilot in FY13, and this board can dip into FY14 a bit?

As always, thanks for the gouge.

100-40=60...
But there'll probably be more slots than that (for pilots at least), since some will drop out or need to redesignate.

 

[LFCFan]

100-40=60...
But there'll probably be more slots than that (for pilots at least), since some will drop out or need to redesignate.

I walked away from the computer thinking "something felt off in that post...I wonder what it was...."

Happy hour after work lasted until 11, what can I say?