Applying to the March 2013 Board

[exNavyOffRec]

So I've been collecting stats on the AW members who applied to the current board. I have about 30 people, most of whom have heard back and shared their scores. Not a single member was accepted for SNA with less than a 7 on their PFAR. There were a few applicants that got SNFO with a 5, though. My board was supposedly a bit less selective, so I strongly suggest you retake if you want SNA. Note that this sample is incomplete and nonrandom.

I have rec'd some PM's from non selects and they had 5's or 6's, but I believe a few on here were selected with a 6 on the PFAR.

 

[dschorr]

I plan on retesting if non-select for everything this board, it just comes down to a lack of time to retest before Feb 1. I can't retest until mid-Jan due to the 31 day policy. I live 3 hours from NRD St. Louis, which is where I go through. It comes down to not being able to take another day off so soon from work to retest, which is why I would need to wait until the next board to retest if SWO non-select.

That being said, I will still have 14 months until graduation by the time the March board is out, plenty of time for now.

 

[VFRonly]

Lol, small world dude. I was an AT in 69B/C (You may know it as the solder shop). Your avatar is in one of the 172s at the flying club isn't it? I took an intro flight in one of those things. One of the main reasons I want to become a Naval Aviator. Anyways yeah, I don't know whats up with the physical thing. I'm meeting with my recruiter tomorrow, so I'll find out. I must have misunderstood him or something. Thanks.

Cool man! It is a small Navy lol. Yeah I know where that shop is. Yep it is the 172 at the flying club I took it up for a flight near Mt. Baker that day with my wife who had never been up in a small plane before that. It's a really nice airplane for $90 an hour, because most 172s are $110 an hour at least. Hopefully your recruiter will give you a clear answer tomorrow and he will tell you that you need to do a physical before submitting.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

After doing more research I feel it would be best to just bite the bullet and take care of the waivers now instead of at OCS. One less thing to stress over during an already hectic time.

waivers are always done before OCS unless something comes up at OCS, they are part of the review process for N3M, and I have seen a few cases where an AD member was found NPQ for commissioning but PQ for continued service as enlisted.

 

[BleedGreen]

waivers are always done before OCS unless something comes up at OCS, they are part of the review process for N3M, and I have seen a few cases where an AD member was found NPQ for commissioning but PQ for continued service as enlisted.

That makes sense
Initially I was under the impression that N3M's physical was only good enough to get you in and the physical at OCS was when the waivers are handled.

1. Having my doctor submit waiver information to N3M and not NAMI is the right thing to do in this situation?

2.Does N3M take just as long to approve a waiver?

3. My doc said something about 1-3 month turnaround for a waiver to process, so potentially I will be waiting until July's board to apply?

Thank you, this N3M vs NAMI thing has got me all screwed up, especially when my recruiter is clueless on the matter.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

That makes sense
Initially I was under the impression that N3M's physical was only good enough to get you in and the physical at OCS was when the waivers are handled.

1. Having my doctor submit waiver information to N3M and not NAMI is the right thing to do in this situation?

2.Does N3M take just as long to approve a waiver?

3. My doc said something about 1-3 month turnaround for a waiver to process, so potentially I will be waiting until July's board to apply?

Thank you, this N3M vs NAMI thing has got me all screwed up, especially when my recruiter is clueless on the matter.

Your doc does the physical, or other required physical exams, he doesn't do the waiver

The waivers are done during the review of the physical by N3M it takes about a week or two unless they want further info.

Do not concern yourself with what NAMI will or will not do as at this point that is out of your hands and not part of this process.

 

[BleedGreen]

Got it, I will let my doctor know. We left off on Friday with him trying to submit all my information to NAMI for approval but I am sure he can adjust accordingly.

 

[LFCFan]

I have rec'd some PM's from non selects and they had 5's or 6's, but I believe a few on here were selected with a 6 on the PFAR.

Good to know. I guess they just didn't share their scores in the other thread - as I said the sample is incomplete. A few people, some with quite good scores, only came out of the woodwork or registered after they were pro-rec'd. I'd imagine some of the non-selects didn't share their scores. Of all the SNA pro-recs who shared, my scores were the lowest (6/7/6/54). I do think that dschorr should probably retake the test to get SNA, though.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Got it, I will let my doctor know. We left off on Friday with him trying to submit all my information to NAMI for approval but I am sure he can adjust accordingly.

yes, he should be giving all the medical documents to your recruiter, as the NRD has to submit to N3M

 

[nombrescreeno]

Aside from what is covered at MEPS, what does N3M look at that MEPS wouldn't do? I know that officers and enlisted have different standards, but are there additional tests that N3M would request outside of the standard physical at MEPS (assuming you don't have any past problems/injuries/surgeries etc.)? Like, anything commonly re-tested?

Good to know. I guess they just didn't share their scores in the other thread - as I said the sample is incomplete. A few people, some with quite good scores, only came out of the woodwork or registered after they were pro-rec'd. I'd imagine some of the non-selects didn't share their scores. Of all the SNA pro-recs who shared, my scores were the lowest (6/7/6/54). I do think that dschorr should probably retake the test to get SNA, though.

I didn't see any with 6's on the PFAR get selected for SNA, though some 6's on the FOFAR did get selected for NFO

 

[LFCFan]

I didn't see any with 6's on the PFAR get selected for SNA, though some 6's on the FOFAR did get selected for NFO

True. The SNFO scores were much more varied than the SNA scores. It seems that in the group I had everyone who got SNA and also applied SNFO got it as well. At least one guy just said "pro-rec SNA!" without mentioning what happened with SNFO. The poster that prompted my reply had a 5 on the PFAR and listed SNA and SNFO, hence my recommendation. There were some 5s accepted for SNFO, even on the FOFAR for one dude.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

The main difference is that they ensure to try and get OC's correctable to 20/20 and depth perception

 

[BleedGreen]

True. The SNFO scores were much more varied than the SNA scores. It seems that in the group I had everyone who got SNA and also applied SNFO got it as well. At least one guy just said "pro-rec SNA!" without mentioning what happened with SNFO. The poster that prompted my reply had a 5 on the PFAR and listed SNA and SNFO, hence my recommendation. There were some 5s accepted for SNFO, even on the FOFAR for one dude.

Thanks for taking the time to collect all this data, I am looking forward to seeing what you get!

 

[VFRonly]

The main difference is that they ensure to try and get OC's correctable to 20/20 and depth perception

NavyOffRec I have a question about how the selection trends have run between boards in your experience. I know it is impossible to predict what the board could do however but I don't know if you have some knowledge that we are not privy to. It could be a little early to ask this, but with board that was relatively less selective as others in the past just occurring, could we see something similar in March? I am sure we could see the opposite take place as well however. Also I am seeking an NFO spot and I was curious to know if those who got Pro-Rec'd for SNA and SNFO, give up one of those spots when they choose their selection path after the paperwork is done? I hope I don't get flamed by anyone for asking these questions, because I am just seeking your opinion. Thanks in advance.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

NavyOffRec I have a question about how the selection trends have run between boards in your experience. I know it is impossible to predict what the board could do however but I don't know if you have some knowledge that we are not privy to. It could be a little early to ask this, but with board that was relatively less selective as others in the past just occurring, could we see something similar in March? I am sure we could see the opposite take place as well however. Also I am seeking an NFO spot and I was curious to know if those who got Pro-Rec'd for SNA and SNFO, give up one of those spots when they choose their selection path after the paperwork is done? I hope I don't get flamed by anyone for asking these questions, because I am just seeking your opinion. Thanks in advance.

That is a very good question, I will use this example, some here were selected for SNA/SNFO/SWO, now they currently have a place holder for all three 1/1/1, once they say are given the FS for SNA it will be 1/0/0 so there will be a SNFO and SWO spot open.