AV-8b Training

[Njc242]

Hey guys, I was surfing the web for some information on this beauty and I came across the following.

AV-8b Take off
and


some text to go along with the screenshot.

"Developed by United States Marine Corps The United States Marine Corps uses ToolBook to create training modules. This screen capture shows an example of one course that is used to train AV-8B Harrier pilots."


So my question is has any harrier pilot or instructor seen this kind of activity in the class room? or is this not even acknowledged by the USMC?



thanks guys.:icon_mi_6

 

[BACONATOR]

Looks similar in format to some of the silly CAIs we have to do in Primary. That much (and it's not much), I can tell you.

 

[phrogpilot73]

Not meaning to diminish some of the "expert" advice by bogey spotter, when Harrier Dude weighs in, you should pay attention. He was an instructor at the Harrier FRS.

 

[Harrier Dude]

That looks similar to the computer based training aids that the students use at VMAT-203. I couldn't get the link to do anything but send me to a generic website. Was there supposed to be a program or lecture on there?

There are a lot of interactive lectures with quizzes imbedded that the students and CAT III refreshers have to do. That doesn't quite look like the format that I saw before, but it's an ever evolving system. Each instructor had to QA their respective functional area, and it was painful going through each slide looking for errors. Squeeze or Freshy could probably give you a better idea if this is the exact stuff they're using lately. In general, though, that's the kind of stuff that they have to learn the basics.

When I was a student, they had these big stacks of paper with words written on them. The papers were bound together to form what we liked to call "books". Sometimes there were pictures or drawings to illustrate a point, sometimes not.

 

[MasterBates]

Was the paper papyrus then HD?

 

[Njc242]

Was the paper papyrus then HD?

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and here is the link HD.

http://www.toolbook.com/learn_showcase.php

thanks for the responses.

 

[Harrier Dude]

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and here is the link HD.

http://www.toolbook.com/learn_showcase.php

thanks for the responses.

OK. Well, it has the NAVAIR symbol on it, and it appears both legitimate and useful. That's probably what they're using now. There is a website for AV-8B training tools (www.av8b.com) that you can use to refresh your knowledges, but it is password protected (I can't imagine why) and the password changes frequently. Again, why? I have no idea. There's nothing classified on it anyway.

My guess is that 203 is transitioning to this new software, or maybe already has. The sample version I saw looked good, although one of the cockpit layout slides appeared to be from a T-45 rather than a Harrier. It's just a sample, though, so that doesn't surprise me.

As for me, I'm not flying anything right now, so if I ever refresh in the Harrier maybe I'll be using this thing. I'd rather use a book, though. My stubby dinosaur arms can't reach the functions of the computer.

 

[Njc242]

thanks for the info.

 

[KBayDog]

When I was a student, they had these big stacks of paper with words written on them. The papers were bound together to form what we liked to call "books". Sometimes there were pictures or drawings to illustrate a point, sometimes not.

Yeah, sure. "Books."

Whatever.

Next you're going to try and convince us that these "books" transported you to magical places, too.

 

[freshy]

I don't think that is the format we're using in the RAG currently. But really who cares...nobody sits in front of those CAI's and really attempts to study that way.

That being said...I'm surprised at how focused VMAT-203 is at advancing technology for RP's. They are currently working on issueing Laptops to all the new guys...and making everything wireless....Like Navflirs...etc...

All I can say is I'm glad to be in the Harrier. The cockpit is awesome...constantly being upgraded too. Having a 10 inch wide HUD is sweet. Oh yeah and that hovering thing is pretty cool too.

Happy New Years.....beee otchess

 

[KBayDog]

Oh yeah and that hovering thing is pretty cool too.

 

[phrogdriver]

Yeah, but you can only hover for like, what? 10 seconds? "Oh, I ran out of water and torched my engine...waaah!" I think HD knows who I'm talking about on that one. Good guy, but a goofball.

Anyway, computer aided instruction is the wave of the future. I still think its a loser, though. We pay a gazillion dollars to a contractor to develop and upkeep the software. How much does it take to pay some retired pilot to teach the standup lecture? $75K? And you'll learn it better? Hello? Bueller? Is the gov't frickin' retarded?

 

[Harrier Dude]

We can hover longer than that. 5 Minutes max. It depends on OAT/weight/etc. There's rarely a reason to hover for too long, though.

I know several people who have torched engines. If he ran out of water, then he was either an idiot, or .........well that pretty much covers it.

 

[phrogdriver]

Actually, as I recall, my man never put the switch on in the first place and stepped in a big pile of dogcrap as a result.

 

[Harrier Dude]

Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh.......

If only there were some kind of procedure in place......some standardized set of things to do before landing maybe.........like a checklist for landing or something........

Or......maybe somebody might have told him to "Check his water switch".......

I'll include these fascinating ideas at the next NATOPS conference.

It's been done many times before. Who was it this time?