BDCP: My gouge

[E26]

What Officer communities only require you to take the OAR?

To my knowledge, only Intel and Flight require the entire ASTB as opposed to just the OAR.

 

[Moc1Sig]

To my knowledge, only Intel and Flight require the ASTB.

Officer
Aptitude
Rating
my knowledge this was for all officers applying to OCS

Aviation Selection Test Battery has additional parts not required for each community. PFAR/FOFAR/...

I'm sure a search would also elaborate

 

[Phoenix289]

Gouge and college thoughts further into BDCP
Lastly becareful with girls. Not saying just be a player and avoid anything serious, but you can't really avoid that anyways. A serious girl can turn into a real big influence and a distraction, expecially before you head off (cough BDCP cough). But come OCS, rose garden, or any of the many challenges a JO faces you dont need a girl that doesn't like or respect your job becuse your gone or busy. touchy subject, very difficult from experience, but we're in a career that requires 110% attention to your job.

This is so true. Great information. Back in high school I got into the Air Force Academy and got a girlfriend within the same week. Six months down the road I ship off to Colorado Springs and had so many mixed motivations I easily had before meeting her that I ended up leaving and enrolling in one of the 4-year universities I got into. Broke up with that girl several months later. I know that sounds horrible leaving an academy (and it was at the time) but I just got pro-rec'd for BDCP SNA last month and I'm going to get sworn in within a couple weeks. I always wanted Navy anyway and there's no question of motivation this time. No way would I let a woman come between me and this opportunity. Experience and age play a significant part so be very careful.

 

[Er.brwn]

Dear Tom,

I am a Freshman in college with sophomore status and have already applied and taken the ASTB Test. I have qualified for everything I was just wondering if you had any tips for me? How long is the actual process?

 

[Lucy]

Er.brwn- You only need a 35 OAR and anywhere between a 3-5 min on the other scores to "qualify" however that is very different from being a competive applicant. 50+ is really standard at this point, based on recent selects, and a 60+ for some positions. As far as the length of the process, it varies. The faster you can get your stuff together, the faster you can apply. Also, depending on your NRD you might have to go through medical first. It just depends. I would suggest, as will most people on here, that you need to speak with your OR about this, and to read the forums. Use the search function. FYI, many people will not take kindly to such vauge questions that have already been answered, as best as they can be, over a 100 times, and are found easily using the search function. And taking the test does not count as applying, but rather the first step.

Best of Luck
Lucy

 

[c-los]

Alright, so I just joined this forum today, and am currently in the application process. I've also been reading a lot of the discussions, which are very helpful. I will be scheduling my ASTB test date this week. I plan on buying:

ACRO GRE/GMAT Math Review 6th edition
Barron's Mechanical Aptitude and Spatial Relations Test
Instrument Rating Airmen Knowledge Test Guide (by Jeppesen)

I'm also using material from http://www.navy-officer.com/astb.html, and downloaded the ASTB sample test from http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/navmedmpte/nomi/nami/Pages/ASTBOverview.aspx

I was wondering if any of you would recommend any other study material, or if any of the study material above is irrelevant. Also, another question I have is, if I were to complete and turn in the application/ASTB/etc by the end of this summer (August at the latest), about how long until I would get notified if I got accepted or not?

 

[blarged]

Also, another question I have is, if I were to complete and turn in the application/ASTB/etc by the end of this summer (August at the latest), about how long until I would get notified if I got accepted or not?

If you submit in August you will most likely be reviewed in September and will find out the results in late September or early October.

 

[VmiMMXI]

If you submit in August you will most likely be reviewed in September and will find out the results in late September or early October.

For what it's worth this was almost exactly my time table as well, submitted in July, pro-recced early September, final selected early January.

 

[MIDNJAC]

operation red october was a documentary I saw on military channel where the east coast Legacy RAG flew to western germany and did training against Migs. They called it the "Navy's Red Flag" either way I thought it was pretty sick.

Wow, I need to see that. Sounds like an amazing experience for the studs. Beats studying them in the vault

 

[nba1290]

If I got a pro-rec for SNA two days ago and got the BDCP, how long until I start getting paid, assuming that I finish the PFT and MEPS within the month? Probably more importantly, when will I get my final select? Do the two go hand in hand?

 

[Lucy]

nba1290- About a month after you recieve your Final Select, because until you swear-in you don't start accumulating pay, and then it is monthly after that.

 

[TheBirdy]

Gouge and college thoughts further into BDCP
My added Gouge



Lastly becareful with girls. Not saying just be a player and avoid anything serious, but you can't really avoid that anyways. A serious girl can turn into a real big influence and a distraction, expecially before you head off (cough BDCP cough). But come OCS, rose garden, or any of the many challenges a JO faces you dont need a girl that doesn't like or respect your job becuse your gone or busy. touchy subject, very difficult from experience, but we're in a career that requires 110% attention to your job.

Gonna definitely agree with you there. I am applying for SNA BDCP and my girlfriend and I constantly talk about me joining the U.S. Navy. She is against the idea completely and keeps on asking me to try to become a doctor (I was doing PreMed before I decided I wanted to fly). I have a strong mindset and she is without a doubt NOT gonna change my mind about this. Like you said, if you work that hard to get into BDCP, savor it and reap the benefits because it isn't easy from what I've heard. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Jo Kelly]

I'm trying to get into BDCP and I'm having a little trouble. I've talked to my local recruiter and a Chief Hill in Nashville. My local recruiter said he couldn't go much further in answering my questions about BDCP than to refer me to the Nashville district, but every time I call Chief Hill, I get his voicemail. I've called several times, and he hasn't called back. Should I just call every day and bug the heck out of him (respectfully) until he answers? Is that allowed? Should I tell my local recruiter the situation and see what he can do?

Another point: I'm a sophomore English major. I can't switch majors because I'd lose my scholarship, and even the E3 salary wouldn't replace it. I have a 3.9 GPA, no health problems, 20/20 vision, and a lot of volunteer and some leadership experience. I was good at physics in high school, though I have yet to take it in college. And I want to fly. Bad. But how likely am I to become a pilot really? I'll serve my country whether I get to do it by air, land, or sea, but I just want to know up front if my dreams are within reach. If not, how can I extend my reach?

~Jordan

 

[TheBirdy]

I'm trying to get into BDCP and I'm having a little trouble. I've talked to my local recruiter and a Chief Hill in Nashville. My local recruiter said he couldn't go much further in answering my questions about BDCP than to refer me to the Nashville district, but every time I call Chief Hill, I get his voicemail. I've called several times, and he hasn't called back. Should I just call every day and bug the heck out of him (respectfully) until he answers? Is that allowed? Should I tell my local recruiter the situation and see what he can do?

Another point: I'm a sophomore English major. I can't switch majors because I'd lose my scholarship, and even the E3 salary wouldn't replace it. I have a 3.9 GPA, no health problems, 20/20 vision, and a lot of volunteer and some leadership experience. I was good at physics in high school, though I have yet to take it in college. And I want to fly. Bad. But how likely am I to become a pilot really? I'll serve my country whether I get to do it by air, land, or sea, but I just want to know up front if my dreams are within reach. If not, how can I extend my reach?

~Jordan

For the first part: I suggest you don't blow up your recruiter's phone. Recruiter's are busy people, they have other things to do. Not saying you shouldn't ask questions and pursue a recruiter, just do it within reason. But, to help you out, BDCP is closed as of right now. Very few people are getting spots (only people graduating in Spring of 2011 are allowed to apply from what I have heard).

Second part: Asking "what are my chances" type of questions on this forum usually get you nowhere (as far as answers go). You have an excellent gpa. Things to help you get to your dream: 1) take the ASTB and score well (50+ OAR), 2) gain leadership positions in clubs, volunteer, get involved in your community, 3) stay out of trouble with the law.

Your 20/20 vision is a plus, but becoming a naval aviator goes far beyond vision requirements. You have to be able to fit in a cockpit, be able to adapt to an aerial environment, etc. The list goes on..get in touch with your OR and take the first step. Good luck.

 

[m26]

1) I wouldn't leave more than one message per week. Don't leave one at the end of the day or end of the week, for obvious reasons. I suppose you could call every day.

Find alternate means to get a hold of an OR. There are multiple recruiters in an office, and you only need to reach one of them. Call the NRD if necessary to get through to the NORS. Try email, if you can get one, then call, and don't be afraid to walk in if the office is within an hour or so of where you live.

2) My math experience effectively ended at algebra in HS. A basic competence is necessary but anything beyond that is a bonus. If you do well on the ASTB (which can be studied for) your major won't matter at all.
-Philosophy major