squorch2 said:The good news is the information is there and it's being put out (giggity!) but the information systems to access it are jealously guarded and not especially easy to use even when you have access.
There's a larger argument to be made here about whether or not we really have that whole "special trust and confidence" thing, but I digress...
I'm not arguing the system...Wouldn't a better system make HAZREPS available to anyone (aviation-types), at any time, without having to have to go through an ASO to get them?
Some of us have common sense. In case you didn't see the HAZREP I was referring to, it was a Navy 60 crew that penetrated a VPOTUS TFR. It was significant becuase they had checked the NOTAMS and TFRs before their flight, and there was nothing. No NOTAM/TFR was published because the Secret Service requested that the FAA not do so in order to keep his visit on the D/L. So I briefed the HAZREP, and went over a quick "what do we do if there is a TFR that isn't published" discussion.It's not lost on me that you just called yourself a good ASO.![]()
Some of us have common sense. In case you didn't see the HAZREP I was referring to, it was a Navy 60 crew that penetrated a VPOTUS TFR. It was significant becuase they had checked the NOTAMS and TFRs before their flight, and there was nothing.
In case you didn't see the HAZREP I was referring to, it was a Navy 60 crew that penetrated a VPOTUS TFR.
Affirm.Was that in SC?
And now, an official nomination for "Threadjack of the Month," with bonus points for the heavy use of acronyms.
Not sure how an unpublished/unpromulgated TFR serves anyone. But hey...I'm not in the Secret Service.No NOTAM/TFR was published because the Secret Service requested that the FAA not do so in order to keep his visit on the D/L.
If I had to say I've learned one thing about the military from the very beginning days of "Just exploring the possibility of serving in the Armed Forces" to today, it can best be summed up like this.
It doesn't. And to be honest, it was probably one of the better written HAZREPs I've read in a LONG time. The comments from the various commanders were pretty well written as well.Not sure how an unpublished/unpromulgated TFR serves anyone. But hey...I'm not in the Secret Service.