magnetfreezer
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At least it's not the Double Down sandwich...
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Body Fat Waivers Scrapped
- Thread starter EM1
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At least it's not the Double Down sandwich...
EM1
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Another recommendation would be to alter the PRT to a single event. Get rid of height weight measurements and just use a timed three mile run. I think you can tell a lot more about someone's overall fitness level with a longer run that with the silliness that is currently used.
The waiver was for the 3% below DoD body fat standards that the Navy holds you to - i.e., Navy holds females to 33%, DoD to 36%. (numbers may not be accurate, it's been a while.) With the advent of 6110.1H, waivers became much harder to get anyway, so eh. This has been coming down the pike for a while. Plus, it could be worse - the AF PT standards have an abdominal circumference portion of the score. As in, your waist size directly contributes to or detracts from your score.
I'd also like to defend rope and choke as being something that even HR Umptysquat can quicky, safely and accurately perform with nothing more than a tape measure while keeping everything above clothing. That's what it's designed around.
For those of you in TW5, I can tell you that you will not wing if you do not pass the PFT (BCA+PRT). If you have a failure and subsequently finish advanced, you'll be on hold until you either pass a PFT or are attrited. I'll try to find more info on it, as it hasn't happened in a couple years, but the policy is there.
I'd also like to defend rope and choke as being something that even HR Umptysquat can quicky, safely and accurately perform with nothing more than a tape measure while keeping everything above clothing. That's what it's designed around.
For those of you in TW5, I can tell you that you will not wing if you do not pass the PFT (BCA+PRT). If you have a failure and subsequently finish advanced, you'll be on hold until you either pass a PFT or are attrited. I'll try to find more info on it, as it hasn't happened in a couple years, but the policy is there.
I am not a PT stud by any stetch of the imagination, but over my brief career I have scored anywhere from good medium to excellent medium. It hasn't been an issue as of late, but when in ROTC my pass or fail on the rope and choke was almost solely based on who did the measuring. The method is hardly objective and is easily manipulated. If you are on the edge hit the cardio or pray the guy doing the measuring likes you.
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slug
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"If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of tasty meat?" --Homer Simpson.
Everyone wants a different PT/fat test instead of working hard at the given standards. Hey, why don't we do one event, a ten mile run, and whoever doesn't have a heart attack can stay in!
We don't get to chose the event, so why worry about it. Just do the best at the test you have been given.
This policy was explained very clearly to my class after checking in to HT-18. And if you were within 10 lbs of your max, you came in every month for a reweigh.
That's retarded
Didn't have anyone get held up because they were overweight. Must have worked.
Every month I retake the anti terrorism online course. I have never been the victim of a terrorist attack. Must have worked.
WOW. Thanks for the advice. Man, next time I have a concern or question about something I'll give you a call. Maybe you could be my personal life coach or something.
This is my biggest beef. There is NOT a single "good" option on base to eat healthy foods. If it's a salad, then there's a ridiculous dressing on it, or it's served inside a big fried, carbohydrate-rich shell.
What the hell am I supposed to eat when my geedunk sells junk, the BX sells crap in a wrap and the gas station is hocking hot dogs that no one should eat? I guess I'll stick to my steady diet of dip and diet coke....
On the other side of the coin, I don't care what anyone says. Super genius qualified or not, if you're a 250lb tub of shit, you don't belong in the military. There are a TON of smart people in this world. What separates us from the civilian world, is we don't have obese, bearded sasquatch fatass working for us. We have to give an appearance of professionalism, physical fitness and the rest.
As my gunny used to say "Thanks for serving, you fat fuck. Now get the fuck out of my Marine Corps!"
EM1
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Something else I'd like to point out - if you're having issues in flight school with the PFA, it's only going to go downhill from there. Your free time doesn't increase when you get to the fleet. Your metabolism doesn't get faster. The food sure as hell doesn't get healthier.
I'm coming from a different branch but this is absolutely true. I just did our PT test in March (AF) and I taped 2 inches smaller than I did last year when I was 15lbs lighter.