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Boeing Crosswind Testing Video
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mules83 said:
And ... it was flown by KAL, nearly-universally (and derisively) known as the "Gooks of Hazard" ... absolutely some of the WORST pilots in the Far East. Right up there in the top 1-2-3, for sure. ONLY fly KAL as a last resort, and then at your own peril. Hey!! It's a free country (last time I checked) and it's my opinion....
Kai Tak, especially the IGS to 13, was the bogeyman for many (most?) guys ... but for me?
My middle name used to be Kai Tak-- don't ask what it is now. I decided early in the game that it was NOT going to get the best of me --- so I ratched down on the approaches into Kai Tak (old Hong Kong Intl') and made them my b!tch, so to speak, instead of the other way around. I ALWAYS liked getting the approaches into there, just to beat the beast into submission and "be somebody". Most guys were more than happy to give me that leg, so it all worked out.
I have been chased by many typhoons across the S. China Sea only to shoot the IGS to 13--- quite the culmination of a busy day. That's the approach most of you reference when you think: Hong Kong and wild approaches. Actually, you're probably safer in the belly of the typhoon than shooting a night/IFR IGS to 13 @ old Kai Tak.
Coincidently, the 13 IGS @ Kai Tak was my
FIRST approach and landing as a 747 F/O in the Orient. About 400' above minimums with a bad overshooting X-wind on turn to final--- obvilously, the Captain ordered me to burn my uniform after landing ... lucky for me my old Navy-days tailor is still in business in Hong Kong. 
Brett327 said:That statement made my fvcking week!
Brett
Mine too. :icon_lol: Quick question: Do commercial aircraft has a dial or knob that allows them to orient the landing gear in a crosswind like the B-52 does?
Yeah I mis-spoke earlier in the thread when I said the DC-10 maintained the crab to touchdown. The was a programed decrab maneuver that happened sequentially after the flare but it would never finish in time. We always landed with a sideload and it finished straightening up on the runway, normally got us straight right as the nose wheel touched. It was a weird twisting feeling on touchdown.wink said:
I hate autolands.....they're a necessary evil but so unnatural to trust an autopilot that much....
One last one to bring us back to topic. Video of a 747 at kai tak. This guy is either really really good, or really really lucky.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg
In the DC8 you had to crab until in the flare and be doing the aileron/rudder dance kicking the airplane straight and not using too much aileron lest you get a pod. On a high wind day the cockpit could be out over the grass until you'd start your correction. Supposedly the gear could take a crab landing but I wasn't brave enough to try that one.
The 767 is like a big Cessna 172 and in all but the worst cases the wing down top rudder method works just fine. Whoever designed the 767 definitely graduated in the top half of his/her class.
The 767 is like a big Cessna 172 and in all but the worst cases the wing down top rudder method works just fine. Whoever designed the 767 definitely graduated in the top half of his/her class.