Conscientious objector pilot?

[yodaears]

The NOAA Corps would be good for you, OP.

Their pilots fly in some of the most hazardous conditions possible. They're a uniformed service just like the Navy, but they do hurricane hunting and other hydrologic and weather-related research.

That's certainly a noncombat position and you'll be doing some good, and flying for a uniformed service. Win-win for the OP!

Don't the NOAA guys hold USNR commissions? Or am I sadly misinformed?

Oh and by the way, as someone who was educated by catholics (mainly Augustinians and Jesuits) I know plenty of religious men that have used "goddamn" to great effect.

 

[Flash]

Don't the NOAA guys hold USNR commissions? Or am I sadly misinformed?

They are a separate uniformed service like the US Public Health Service. I believe in the past, like WWII, they were 'taken over' by the Navy like the Coasties but I am pretty certain they do not hold concurrent commissions in the USNR.

 

[HeyJoe]

RP's can not legally carry weapons. If someone is a CO and wants to serve in this capacity, then good for them. Have at it.

Bevo, that is bad gouge. Navy job description says otherwise. To wit:

Navy Chaplains are non-combatants, but RPs are considered combatant and will receive combat training. RPs protect the chaplain and ensure his or her safety, particularly in combat areas.

 

[Stearmann4]

And just who the fuck are you, anyway? Either fill out your bio a bit more, or shut the fuck up.

Bingo! Annonymity is for perverts ya douche Slug.

 

[bunk22]

Oh and by the way, as someone who was educated by catholics (mainly Augustinians and Jesuits) I know plenty of religious men that have used "goddamn" to great effect.

Oh, that makes it okay then

 

[Brett327]

@ OP: You're clearly not able to be a military aviator as a CO - it's a complete non-starter. If you're so religious and intent on serving, why not join the seminary and become a Chaplain? Kind of the logical choice sitting right under your nose, no? The Chaplain Corps are among the most educated people in uniform. What do you say?

Brett

 

[Pugs]

We're bring back A.O.C.S. with less than socially acceptable DI's to sort out the halves from the wholes.

Mark G., I respectfully recommend the above. The dollar is losing value anyway- budgets and fiscal planning be damned. It's as good a time as any for the return to the AOCS philosophy.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic but I wholeheartedly approve! Have they torn down Batt I and II or did the hurricane get them?

 

[Bevo16]

Bevo, that is bad gouge. Need. Navy job description says otherwise. To wit:

You gotta be shittin me!!!!

 

[scoolbubba]

Hey Bevo, I don't know if you know this, but RPs carry weapons to protect the chaplain. Did ya get a copy of that memo?

Here. Let me get you a copy of that memo:
http://extensis.cnrc.navy.mil/factsheets/rp.doc

 

[Pepe]

 

[MIDNJAC]

FWIW there are plenty of missionary organizations that rely on general aviation pilots to operate, especially in places like S. America and Africa. If you want to fly, and have a strong religious faith, this would seem to be a pretty good fit. Of course you would still need to figure out a way to get your civilian certifications, but in the end you would probably not have to worry about killing anyone.

 

[HeyJoe]

You gotta be shittin me!!!!

Don't know why that link went south for you. It worked for Scoolbubba vv Recommend you check it again.

Hey Bevo, I don't know if you know this, but RPs carry weapons to protect the chaplain. Did ya get a copy of that memo?

Here. Let me get you a copy of that memo:
http://extensis.cnrc.navy.mil/factsheets/rp.doc

Here is same description in black and white in pertinent NWP:

1.9 RELIGIOUS PROGRAM SPECIALIST ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES

1.9.1 Warfare Specialty and Combatant Status

RPs are combatants. They, like other Sailors, can earn a warfare specialty that does not violate any national or international agreements. This is due to the uniqueness of the rating because RPs serve with the United States Marine Corps and are trained to participate in operations (when required) and to protect the chaplain.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I think this guy's question has been answered. In short: no. though we salute your willingness to hang your ass over the side of the boat in shark-infested waters, you're better off looking elsewhere.

As mentioned, NOAA Corps might be something worth nudging around if you're determined to fly and wear a uniform but don't want to be in the military (I don't get that personally, but different strokes, I guess). I wouldn't get your hopes up, though.

There's two categories of officer in NOAA - the science guys and the ship-driving guys. For new officers, NOAA wants guys who are both, but usually people start as one and develop into the other. If you have neither a military-maritime (e.g., maritime academy grad) nor earth-science background, your chances are pretty slim. You just don't have anything to offer. As for aviation, NOAA does train some pilots from scratch (almost all guys who are already in NOAA), but most of their aviators are cross-commissioned from the other services, as that saves NOAA the considerable expense of training them.

 

[Bevo16]

Don't know why that link went south for you. It worked for Scoolbubba vv Recommend you check it again.
Here is same description in black and white in pertinent NWP:

Oh hell.

So, what you are saying is that you can be an RP and SEAL? Awesome!

Anybody know what % of RP's get combat?

Anyone seen my stapler?

 

[hokieav8r]

(helos or lift). Although you do have to be high in your class to get what you want (attack slots were always filled with the bottom feeders at Rucker).

The CG route--Blue 21, waiver for PRK, with your GPA and no flight experience is probably a bridge too far. I suggest going into another service, get 500 hours and apply to be a DCA.

You won't be shooting anyone as a CG aviator.

Rucker is busy in the attack role right now as there seems to be only a shortage of Apache/Longbow pilots. The bubble is large from finishing your primary/instruments/basic navigation until you actually start flying apaches right now, sometimes up to a year of just sitting around rucker, or going to other schools before getting in the cockpit of the apache.

you may never shoot someone as a CG Aviator, however your crew members will be shooting at people, depending on what you are doing that day.

If you are a consciencious objector, don't joint the Armed Forces. The Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security deal violence on your behalf so you don't have to. It is not a place for you.