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Contract Signing

KSM

New Member
I am going to sign my air contract next week after my PFT and I am wondering if there are any comments or things to watch out for when I sign it. When I went to MEPS they said my vision was 20/20 Left and 20/30 Right. They were also worried because I have a mild case of eczema that is controllable. My last PFT was about a 226. I didn't know if these last things mattered when I sign it so I threw them in just in case. I appreciate the help.
 

llnick2001

it’s just malfeasance for malfeasance’s sake
pilot
I can't imagine it would have anything designed specifically to trick or trap you. Just read it and make sure you are willing to honor all of it and you should do alright.
 

xmid

Registered User
pilot
Contributor
What could potentially be on there that would keep you from signing? Unless I am mistaken they are all the same for everyone during a given time frame... So either you sign it or you go find another line of work. That being said you should still read it and be willing to follow its stipulations, but whatever is on there is just what you gotta pay to play.
 

invertedflyer

500 ft. from said obstacle
What was said above is correct... its fairly straightforward paperwork. However, there are a couple other things to look for and consider. First and foremost, remember that if you choose to accept tuition assistance or the financial assistance program (MCTAP and FAP) it will add a year or two onto your contract (your tuition will be reimbursed and you can receive stipends). I'm sure your OSO has informed you of this, however. The 20/20 and 20/30 vision issue shouldn't be a problem (fellas correct me if I'm wrong here) ... as far as I know that still falls within acceptable parameters. the dermetological problem shouldn't even be an issue. However, you definitely want to try to improve that PFT score... by the time you ship to Juniors you should be in the 250-260 range. If you are going to combined or seniors the 270 -280 range.
 

DocT

Dean of Students
pilot
Read what you're signing. I thought I signed an NFO contract...2 years later I found out I was an SNA.
 

xmid

Registered User
pilot
Contributor
Read what you're signing. I thought I signed an NFO contract...2 years later I found out I was an SNA.

Hence why I said to actually read the thing. But seriously, how did you not notice whether it was SNFO or SNA? I mean most guys take serious interest in which one they want to be?
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
Read what you're signing. I thought I signed an NFO contract...2 years later I found out I was an SNA.

No offense to my double-anchor club friends, but that sounds like a good thing.

Second the read it advice. It's pretty much a take-it-or-leave-it deal, though. It's not as if your OSO is going to sneak in a handwritten addendum that says,"4a. Subject named candidate must wash my car every Sunday."
 

DocT

Dean of Students
pilot
I was hurried through signing by an OSO who wanted to get the hell out of the office. I really had no idea what was going on. I was signing my name about 55 times as he ripped through the pages. I was told that I if I wanted to get accepted by the board I would put in an air contract. I'm a Marine now so I got what I wanted.

Fast forward to just before I commissioned and I got a call from the Gunny telling me that he checked and that I had signed an SNA contract.

I was intimidated by the situation while signing my contract and didn't have the nuts to say "Slow down, sir. I want to read this thing."

That's how it happened.
 

SemperFlyMarine

The CRF's Worst Nightmare
Did it get worked out for you? I kind of had an OSO like that, too, but the Gunny who worked with him talked me through the contract, so I was able to read over it before signing anything
 

Tactical387

New Member
I was hurried through signing by an OSO who wanted to get the hell out of the office. I really had no idea what was going on. I was signing my name about 55 times as he ripped through the pages. I was told that I if I wanted to get accepted by the board I would put in an air contract. I'm a Marine now so I got what I wanted.

Fast forward to just before I commissioned and I got a call from the Gunny telling me that he checked and that I had signed an SNA contract.

I was intimidated by the situation while signing my contract and didn't have the nuts to say "Slow down, sir. I want to read this thing."

That's how it happened.

Haha. you should never be afraid of your oso though, back when I contracted ground (bf switching to air) I was holding the pen in my hand and I actually made my oso write down that I was not obligated for anything until my commissioning. :)
 

Tactical387

New Member
...My last PFT was about a 226. I didn't know if these last things mattered when I sign it so I threw them in just in case. I appreciate the help.

You want to be a marine officer? with that pt score? who told you to live? go die. ready move.

no but really your pft should be significantly higher than that. not trying to be a dick but I saw people npq that came in with like 260s. As one of my SI's said " Son, how are you gonna lead from the front if you're in the back suckin wind?"
 

BACONATOR

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Make sure your eczema. Your vision is fine. I made it through as 20/40. But no shit, I heard a phone call from a friend of a friend where he found out he was just NPQ for eczema. I guess it must have been a significant case of it, but I would just check NAMI's waiver guide to see what it says about eczema. I don't want to scare you at all, just check out your situation before you jump in head first. Congrats! And best of luck.
 

Fetter

Registered User
I contracted ground and just passed the ASTB, so now they are sending me the paperwork to switch to air. I haven't been for the flight physical yet though...hm. If I fail the flight physical does that mean I walk away?

The only thing that can get me is childhood asthma. MEPS cleared it so does that mean I'm okay? I don't know whether to mention it or not b/c it will only cause problems and if the USMC is allowing me to be a ground officer without giving me any kind of breather test, shouldn't they allow for air just the same?
 
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