cool pic

[webmaster]

As long as it stays on track and provides food for inteligent, or at least humorous/entertaining posts, keep it rolling. My 'aft bomb bay' comment came from the 'promo card' or whatever was on that website. Unlike SOME people...Webmaster...I didn't get to see/tour the MMA demo plane...I can't quite remember what I was doing, but I think whatever it was, it sucked, TPC maybe...I did swipe one of those leather MMA 737 coasters from a new 3P at the club in K-Bay. Did the demo plane have wing pylons? If so, how many?

Well, I wasn't in TPC, and ran screaming and giggling like a kid at xmas over to the demo bird. She was what Boeing called a white tail, only had 20 hours on the airframe, and had nothing in the tube except bags of lead pellets to increase the aircraft's weight (they wanted to simulate bagged out aircraft). There weren't any pylons, or anything else. The only thing it did have was a fuselage fuel tank. The thing that sucked, was the aircraft was swarmed by 53 dudes. The Boeing reps were great about taking the time to answer questions for the P3 guys, opening up the nav bay, engine cowling, and going through the cockpit features. Plus, did you go to that brief the next day? They showed all the flight numbers and stats.... that is about all I recall from the event.

BTW, can I have my leather MMA 737 coaster back?

 

[ea6bflyr]

Sweet pics, oh mighty webmaster! Talk about E-6 guys getting jealous.
That will be one fine ride...but I'm guessing it will be S L O W. Manueverability? Does it fly like a standard jetliner? I guess they will have to replace the T-44's with something like the T-1A Jaybird for Maritime training.
ea6bflyr

Some more Boeing MMA (737 concept pictures) for your pleasure... also, a picture of the 737 on downwind in Kbay, during the 2003 demonstration tour. Below are two links to the Boeing MMA homepage, and their broadband media MMA presentation (Realplayer).

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/mma/flash.html

http://video.boeing.com:8080/ram/events/lb03415_200.ram

 

[Punk]

Military a/c are more suceptable to it, and their a lot more expensive to repair/replace. Plus downtime decreases efficency... and ups cost in an already "every penny accountable" enviroment. When an engine sucks up a caster wheel from some cart its one of those "we could've saved several million dollars by doing a simple FOD walk down" things. Expensive fix, easily preventable.

I wouldn't say military aircraft are more suscepitble to FOD and replacing any jet engine isn't cheap. However, an F404 taking FOD is worse off than a 737 engine taking FOD. But we work in an environment where FOD awareness can be implemented better than in the civilian sector.

 

[TANGO 1]

Due to the overwhelming concern over deadly FOD'ing among Naval airframes, I hereby volunteer to serve as the Navy's official "FOD Verification Specialist". Starting bright and early tomorrow, I will visit every NAS and every fleet squadron (plus FRS's) to verify the ability of their aircraft to withstand the dreaded FOD. This will entail throwing golf balls and frozen turkeys into the (spinning) intakes of every third airframe while TANGO 1 stands thirty feet downstream and collects/records the chunks that make it through. Wearing safety goggles, of course.

Fear not, for no Naval Aviator will be forced into the haphazard MMA until it has withstood the scientific inspection of TANGO, myself, and a trunk full of bowling pins.

Well, i will love to do that. The problem is that you kind of think it is funny. Pray you don't have to punch out because somebody left a dime in the intake while they dove the ducts.

 

[TANGO 1]

Maybe you need to see pictures of how a dime would damage an engine or how FOD will make flight controls to jam.

 

[Punk]

Maybe you need to see pictures of how a dime would damage an engine or how FOD will make flight controls to jam.

I thought you were argueing about big turbofans and FOD, not just FOD in general

just because you got owned in one subject, don't change topics

 

[TANGO 1]

I know i have seen a couple on the Naval Avaition Magazine ( MECH) and a few other ones have picture. I mean this engines are literally damaged. The blades arre torn all the way to the second stages of compression. I have read instances where a pilot left a coin in the cockpit and then the coin finds its way into the throttle quadrant and then gets stuck while the pilto was trying to engage the throttle. I am not sure if the pilot lost his life or if the plane was lost. There have been instances on a helo where a coin fell from a PC's pocket and finds its way into the flight control and the pilot could not use his flight controls properly. I mean there are many instances.
I don't know what the Navy's stands is as far as 0700 FOD walks, but my Squadron is pretty strict. I mean the AMO does not play with that sh!t. Tool control, tool management and all other FOD related issues.

 

[Punk]

can we go back to the topic at hand please

pretty please

 

[TANGO 1]

can we go back to the topic at hand please

pretty please

By all means, ain't nobody holding you.

 

[Punk]

By all means, ain't nobody holding you.

you're doing a good job of getting threads on tangents

 

[TANGO 1]

you're doing a good job of getting threads on tangents

Thanks men, anything else

 

[zab1001]

Enough. Threadlock.