Because the current guy is in charge, and has been for 3 years.
It's the nature of command.
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It's the nature of command.
So who do we compare ourselves to? China?
Furthermore, just yesterday did the US officially say that China was lying anytime they opened their mouth about this. And that affected our initial assessment of the seriousness of the threat, and thus the response.
How come you never came on here and talked about the 15,807 Americans with an AIDS diagnosis who died in 2016? It was President Obama’s fault because he never pushed hard enough for an HIV/AIDS cure while he was president. He had been president for SEVEN years when those people died. There’s blood on his hands because he should have known that more people would die from the HIV/AIDS epidemic.
You see, it’s his fault because their deaths happened on his watch. That’s how command works.
See what I did there?
I totally agree that having non-maintained ventilators is bad and is akin to wondering who has the keys to the AA ammo locker on 7DEC41. But there's still many layers of SESs and GS-15s between Trump and the ventilators who were responsible to make sure that that equipment was cared for. So it is most definitely a failure but to call it Trump's failure isnt totally accurate. There was ample discussion about the risk of a coronavirus pandemic in the years leading up to now under various administrations so there will be plenty of blame for everyone.
I didn't have an account, first. Was there a thread on it?
Did it cripple an entire aircraft carrier? Shut down the country? The planet? Send us into a recession heading for a depression? i missed the huge recession it triggered.
Ignoring what they said and are saying, and just watching what they did (actions speak louder than words) they shut down their entire region and essentially the country for weeks in response to this thing, completely kneecapping their economy. They built huge hospitals in days to accommodate the anticipated patient load. Leaked videos of people dying in the street. We had boots on ground at the consulate in Wuhan.
If that didn't get everyone's spidey sense tingling, they were sticking their head in the sand.
^^^^^^ Government 101.
On a less contentious note, its good that ships have lots of brass. Copper and its alloys are anti-microbial, to include anti-viral. Big, proven science behind it. We are using it on PPE now to help with sterilization.
Considering covering our stainless door handles with copper wire wrap. Ships could do similar.
Open literature.
en.wikipedia.org
Considering covering our stainless door handles with copper wire wrap. Ships could do similar.
Open literature.
Antimicrobial copper-alloy touch surfaces - Wikipedia
This guy thought something was amiss . . . The Dems were still liquored up over the whole IMPEACH TRUMP NOW folly.
Interesting. I have some Tommie Copper gloves I wore after a hand surgery...wonder if they would work?On a less contentious note, its good that ships have lots of brass. Copper and its alloys are anti-microbial, to include anti-viral. Big, proven science behind it. We are using it on PPE now to help with sterilization.
Considering covering our stainless door handles with copper wire wrap. Ships could do similar.
Open literature.
Antimicrobial copper-alloy touch surfaces - Wikipedia
Don’t Listen To Sen. Tom Cotton About Coronavirus (01/31/2020)
Although the outbreak is a global health emergency that has killed over 200 people and requires serious action, many infectious disease experts have urged patience while they assess the true dangers of the outbreak and cautioned against the kind of fearmongering that Cotton has embraced.
“Panic is never a useful thing to elicit in a population ... and anyone who’s doing that probably shouldn’t be in a public policy office,” Dr. Michael Mina, assistant professor of epidemiology and immunology at Harvard University. said.
Although the outbreak is a global health emergency that has killed over 200 people and requires serious action, many infectious disease experts have urged patience while they assess the true dangers of the outbreak and cautioned against the kind of fearmongering that Cotton has embraced.
“Panic is never a useful thing to elicit in a population ... and anyone who’s doing that probably shouldn’t be in a public policy office,” Dr. Michael Mina, assistant professor of epidemiology and immunology at Harvard University. said.
I think you’re missing the point of my post.
@Pags said it better than I did, and with less sarcasm.
Apparently Dr. Faucci pimped this website out the other day as good data for US curve predictions.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/
https://covid19.healthdata.org/
Granted, my formal data science training is like a semester and a half at the undergrad level, but good God are those some huge error bars.
Confidence interval runs from “we’ll be fine” all the way to “holy fuck that’s bad.”
AIRMMCPORET
Plan “A” Retired
What’s your thoughts?