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- Thread starter Treetop Flyer
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I hope they get their asses sued into bankruptcy! Politics doesn’t belong in medicine! Do they deny transplants to smokers, drug addicts, alcoholics?
Yes, they deny transplants to alcoholics and drug addicts all the time. Additionally some smokers have been denied.
Do you want to try another allegory that fits your narrative?
All true, just as companies charge you more for health insurance if you smoke, etc - I am actually surprised the insurance companies have not made BMI as part of the equation to charge more.
This case is odd in the fact that the patient in question is not receiving a kidney from the national transplant list but from a church member (neither had been vaccinated). Here are more details:
UCHealth Denies Kidney Transplant To Unvaccinated Woman & Donor
According to UCHealth, the majority of transplant recipients and living donors are now required to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Neither woman has received their shots.
denver.cbslocal.com
Following your links said nothing about Colorado. And they used words “may” and “could”. The link Randy linked said “will”. Did you fail every NATOPS or do you not understand the differences in each of those words? Do you want to find a few more “possible” counter arguments! Or you just going to edit and moderate my post cause the truth hurts?
By the way, I could list lots of other examples. I ain’t trying to fit any narrative. Denying anybody medical care is illegal and bullshit!
I'd be all about that. I'm at 21.something... bring it!
Btw anybody noticed Francis Collins quit the NIH because of Gain of Function research in the Wuhan lab? Not even a blip on the news? When is Fauci going to resign or get fired? The walls are closing in on these liars!
Well, at least you allowed for case law. I can't take serious anyone who looks to the printed Constitution for specific authorization for every action the government takes. Ignorance. But since you mentioned case law, you should know that there are several Supreme Court opinions that permit mandated vaccines. It goes back 100 years or more. Even since the covid pandemic, federal appeals courts have ruled for the government in every case I am aware of, and the US Supreme Court appears to be fine with it since they haven't taken any of the them up for review. Now all that means is the government CAN impose certain mandates in the interests of public health. If you don't agree with the mandates you have recourse. But unless it involves a very novel legal argument or unusually restrictive mandate (which we haven't seen yet) your recourse is political , not legal.
And now they are vaccinated and I am vaccinated, same as you are, and life is normal. I sucked it up until we could all get vaccinated, instead of being a crybaby about it.
LOL, I worked in the office/lab all the way through the pandemic, and worked volunteer EMS too. Before and after getting vaccinated.
So...what is your opinion on your covid ideological brethren, the people that agree with you 100% on mandates, ivermectin, masks, etc., but are unvaccinated and at risk (overweight)?
How about the ideological twins who agreed with you on all things Covid, but once in the hospital on high flow O2 wish they had gotten the vaccine, and actually recommend it to others? Traitors to the cause?
No
Study ties COVID vaccines to lower transmission rates
Your article… nice try..And now they are vaccinated and I am vaccinated, same as you are, and life is normal. I sucked it up until we could all get vaccinated, instead of being a crybaby about it.
LOL, I worked in the office/lab all the way through the pandemic, and worked volunteer EMS too. Before and after getting vaccinated.
So...what is your opinion on your covid ideological brethren, the people that agree with you 100% on mandates, ivermectin, masks, etc., but are unvaccinated and at risk (overweight)?
How about the ideological twins who agreed with you on all things Covid, but once in the hospital on high flow O2 wish they had gotten the vaccine, and actually recommend it to others? Traitors to the cause?
No
Study ties COVID vaccines to lower transmission rates
www.cidrap.umn.edu
Vaccines have 71% effectiveness against transmission
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You were wetting yourself about someone making you a sandwich without a mask onAnd now they are vaccinated and I am vaccinated, same as you are, and life is normal. I sucked it up until we could all get vaccinated, instead of being a crybaby about it.
LOL, I worked in the office/lab all the way through the pandemic, and worked volunteer EMS too. Before and after getting vaccinated.
So...what is your opinion on your covid ideological brethren, the people that agree with you 100% on mandates, ivermectin, masks, etc., but are unvaccinated and at risk (overweight)?
How about the ideological twins who agreed with you on all things Covid, but once in the hospital on high flow O2 wish they had gotten the vaccine, and actually recommend it to others? Traitors to the cause?
No
Study ties COVID vaccines to lower transmission rates
Got formally notified through my CoC of vax requirement for DoD civs. We had a short Q&A with our command JA - interesting that there are no plans or requirments to submit proof of vaccination or even formal attestation. (Where as my mil colleagues have to provide a paper record). We've also had a number of reservists refuse vaccination and are vocal about their intent to seek med/religious excemption from the policy - and the AF is providing them JA support to help them document their cases (I've heard the majority are senior enlisted).
Anyways - I especially found it interesting that there is no intent to ask DoD civs for proof or attestation of vax. Maybe thats coming later?
Anyways - I especially found it interesting that there is no intent to ask DoD civs for proof or attestation of vax. Maybe thats coming later?
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So now they’re saying the quiet part out loud.
Oh, sorry..I didn’t realize you only meant Colorado. ? I was just answering your question below. I guess proper pronouns elude you. ?
Do you still use NATOPS in your retired life? That’s weird. ?
So what do you guys think of people like this, that were on your ideological team but then got Covid and now recommend vaccines? Do they know something that you don't, based on their experience in the arena in the fight with Covid? Experience you don't have? Or are they deserters to the cause?
www.mlive.com
or
www.menshealth.com
‘Death is imminent’ for Michigan woman who opposed COVID-19 vaccination and regretted decision
The woman voiced regret upon being admitted, and spent her time in the hospital calling friends and family who, like her, had refused to be vaccinated.
or
Bodybuilder With Presumed “Mild Illness” Refused the Vaccine, but Died of COVID-19
His twin sister described him as "fittest, healthiest person I know"