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Given his track record of success, I’m just super surprised that Fauci got this so incredibly wrong. I mean, if the Today Show is running this story...
www.nj.com
www.today.com
Dr. Anthony Fauci has a warning for fans flocking to NFL, college football games
Football fans are returning to college and NFL stadiums across the country amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Packed stadiums have not been superspreader events, numbers show
At the start of college football season, doctors were concerned that thousands of unmasked people packing into stadiums could turn into superspreader events, but COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations have declined nationwide. NBC’s Shaquille Brewster reports for Weekend TODAY.
www.today.com
It’s because they were all wearing pieces of cloth strapped to their facesGiven his track record of success, I’m just super surprised that Fauci got this so incredibly wrong. I mean, if the Today Show is running this story...
Dr. Anthony Fauci has a warning for fans flocking to NFL, college football games
Football fans are returning to college and NFL stadiums across the country amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Packed stadiums have not been superspreader events, numbers show
At the start of college football season, doctors were concerned that thousands of unmasked people packing into stadiums could turn into superspreader events, but COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations have declined nationwide. NBC’s Shaquille Brewster reports for Weekend TODAY.
Cue everyone's favorite professor chiming in with "iT's BeCaUsE oF tHe VaCcInE mAnDaTeS oN cAmPuSeS!!" in 3, 2, 1...
You are certain vaccines are not a factor, or are you trolling again?
You're clearly trolling me here.
Let's think logically about this one, stadiums across America are packing in close to 100,000 people in the stands each week. If there were issues resulting from this, do you not think it would be headline news across the country?
How are the hospitals in Baton Rouge, Starkville, Oxford, Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, Athens, Knoxville, Lexington, and other destinations throughout the southern states doing two weeks after home games? People lined up in the hallways of the hospitals waiting for the unavailable ICU beds? They should be doing terribly because of their states' low vaccination rates and lack of mask mandates, right? Cases are WAY down across all of these states as well.
I hate to break it to you, but this Harvard study actually shows that vaccinated populations actually have a slightly higher case rate.
“At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.”
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Hate to break it to you, but you are no MD, or scientific researcher. We both know that plenty of studies have been thrown on the ash heap. The half life is probably 8 months. And neither one of us is in a position to critique them. Fact is, you can not be certain vaccinations have not been a factor in football fan case rates.You're clearly trolling me here.
Let's think logically about this one, stadiums across America are packing in close to 100,000 people in the stands each week. If there were issues resulting from this, do you not think it would be headline news across the country?
How are the hospitals in Baton Rouge, Starkville, Oxford, Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, Athens, Knoxville, Lexington, and other destinations throughout the southern states doing two weeks after home games? People lined up in the hallways of the hospitals waiting for the unavailable ICU beds? They should be doing terribly because of their states' low vaccination rates and lack of mask mandates, right? Cases are WAY down across all of these states as well.
I hate to break it to you, but this Harvard study actually shows that vaccinated populations actually have a slightly higher case rate.
“At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people. Notably, Israel with over 60% of their population fully vaccinated had the highest COVID-19 cases per 1 million people in the last 7 days. The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated.”
Fully half your post was not responsive to my question. Thanks for pointing out what is casually known.
You got me, doctor. Also not a doctor. But unless you plan on censoring me, I’m allowed to state my opinion and share it with others. You can agree or not, I don’t really care. Maybe you can use your mod powers and put a disclaimer on anyone’s posts on this thread who isn’t either a medical doctor or scientific researcher? And then we can carry that forward to other threads as well to combat all the disinformation around here.
So it’s your premise that vaccines are what’s causing the lack of cases stemming from what a month ago were called “super spreader” events? Care to explain the uptick in cases in highly vaccinated US states like Vermont, then? And countries like Israel and Iceland?
Also, you may want to tell all of this to the NBA and NHL, because apparently your scientific breakthrough is not casually known to them.
And lastly, you’re welcome.
P.S. it’s not just “football fan cases” like you mentioned, because people who attended these games on Saturday are going to church on Sunday and work on Monday. Like you said, I'm not a scientist, but it stands to reason that they’re interacting with other people who did NOT attend these “super spreader” events as well. So you’d see a much larger spread in the community as well, right?
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This thread is like watching an infinite loop. 431 pages of:
1.) ZOMG COVID Restriction X!
2.) I’m in solidarity with X because…
3.) You’re a communist!
4.) Twitter post links to scientific study
5.) That study is garbage!
6.) You are garbage
7.) Sarcasm about masks
8.) Sarcasm about vaccines
9.) Let’s go Brandon!
10.) Orange Man Bad!
(repeat)
I’m sure we are well on the way to solving the world’s problems.
1.) ZOMG COVID Restriction X!
2.) I’m in solidarity with X because…
3.) You’re a communist!
4.) Twitter post links to scientific study
5.) That study is garbage!
6.) You are garbage
7.) Sarcasm about masks
8.) Sarcasm about vaccines
9.) Let’s go Brandon!
10.) Orange Man Bad!
(repeat)
I’m sure we are well on the way to solving the world’s problems.
Good thing I’m not part of the Canadian government then.
It’s joined the transpacific airline routes. I heard it multiple times over the radio flying between LAX and HNL yesterday.
Free countries are ones where the government tells you how many people you can have in your home, and when they can be there.
And to be fair, also ones where the President can ignore mask mandates and their press secretary says people should not “overly focus on moments in time” and instead pay attention to his policies. Rules for thee but not for me...
www.foxnews.com
And to be fair, also ones where the President can ignore mask mandates and their press secretary says people should not “overly focus on moments in time” and instead pay attention to his policies. Rules for thee but not for me...
Psaki brushes off video of Biden violating DC mask mandate: Don't 'overly focus on moments in time'
White House press secretary Jen Psaki brushed off a question Monday about President Biden being filmed without a mask inside a Washington, D.C., restaurant, saying people should pay attention to the president’s policies and "not overly focus on moments in time."
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Can we please make the distinction that this is a state restriction and not a federal one? This is my home town of Perth, Western Australia less than a month ago:
There were about 61,000 people at the 2021 AFL Grand Final. COVID restrictions, much like in this in country, are not uniform across Australian states.