COVID-19

[SlickAg]

Because it is a tool in the fight.

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100% of the people getting a 50% effective vaccine is the equivalent of 50% of the people getting a 100% effective vaccine. So in some ways we’re there.

Oh?

So, if we’re “there”, it’s no longer a “dempanic of the unvaccinated”? Interesting, because that’s right in line with this gentleman’s thinking.

“The seasons have changed, however, and case trends along with it. The Midwest and the Northeast are now the epicenter of the latest COVID surge.

And just like that, inexplicably, the media’s no longer interested in blaming local officials or the political beliefs of residents for the dramatic increase in COVID cases. Imagine that!

After scores of hysterical articles on Florida were written, despite the fact that the inevitable crash of cases and hospitalizations in the state almost immediately proved them wrong, interestingly the mass panic and hyperbole is noticeably absent of late.”

All of the Sudden, the Media's No Longer Interested In Blaming COVID on Political Ideology

Whoops

ianmsc.substack.com

 

[sevenhelmet]

Gee thanks, I’ve never seen a Swiss cheese model before…

My comment was more along the lines of moving goalposts and the tendency of temporary/emergency measures to become permanent. When there is no exit strategy, there is no exit.

 

[Hair Warrior]

Because it is a tool in the fight.

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100% of the people getting a 50% effective vaccine is the equivalent of 50% of the people getting a 100% effective vaccine. So in some ways we’re there.

Yeah, and you can prevent 100% of parachute/ freefall accidents by never letting people jump in the first place. ORM is not designed to be 100% safe. Life on planet earth is not worth living if it’s 100% safe. In case you forgot, we let people eat McDonalds every day. We let them climb cliffs without a rope. We let them have unprotected sex with as many consenting adults as they want. You want 100% safe? Go live in a bubble. Don’t force that bubble boy life on the rest of the free world. Or at least go properly amend the Constitution of the United States first, through the approved process, before you try to altruistically ignore it.

 

[taxi1]

Yeah, and you can prevent 100% of parachute/ freefall accidents by never letting people jump in the first place

Nobody has said the vaccine is 100% effective, Mr. Strawman.

My comment was more along the lines of moving goalposts and the tendency of temporary/emergency measures to become permanent. When there is no exit strategy, there is no exit.

You said “In what world would 50% have ever been good enough? 90% sure wasn’t.” That’s not talking about goalpost moving.

 

[SlickAg]

Nobody has said the vaccine is 100% effective, Mr. Strawman.

Umm......

”You’re not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations.”
-Joe Biden

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick...”
-CDC Director Rochelle Walensky

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1462128580607971332

 

[taxi1]

Pre-Delta variant talk.

 

[SlickAg]

So you missed the part of the video where Fauci said “they’re really, really good against variants”?

Or you’re admitting that he was flat-out wrong, meaning he is indeed infallible and the science is not, in fact, settled.

Which one is it?

 

[taxi1]

So you missed the part of the video where Fauci said “they’re really, really good against variants”?

Or you’re admitting that he was flat-out wrong.

Which one is it?

Well actually, now that you mention it, they are really, really good against the variants. This from two days ago.

 

[SlickAg]

Well actually, now that you mention it, they are really, really good against the variants. This from two days ago.

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So you were mistaken when you said it was pre-Delta variant talk?

 

[Hair Warrior]

So you were mistaken when you said it was pre-Delta variant talk?

Dude, cut taxi some slack, he needs time to flip to the correct page in his talking points.

 

[taxi1]

So you were mistaken when you said it was pre-Delta variant talk?

The parts where they said what you quoted in your post were pre-Delta variant.

The graphic I posted showing the incredible efficacy of the vaccine was from two days ago, and has been consistent for the entire pandemic.

 

[SlickAg]

The parts where they said what you quoted in your post were pre-Delta variant.

The graphic I posted showing the incredible efficacy of the vaccine was from two days ago, and has been consistent for the entire pandemic.

So if the vaccine is so powerful against the delta variant, then what difference does it make if the statements were pre-delta variant? They should still stand on their own due to the infographic you just posted, right?

So the vaccines are either effective against variants, or they’re not. You’ve argued both sides in recent posts.

Now, if you follow this up with a post about how awful Florida is doing compared to other (blue) states, it’d just be icing on the cake.

 

[taxi1]

So if the vaccine is so powerful against the delta variant, then what difference does it make if the statements were pre-delta variant? They should still stand on their own due to the infographic you just posted, right?

Wrong as always.

I'll let you try to figure out why.

Florida

Aren't you from Texas? Let's check in there, see how terribly the vaccine is at keeping people out the hospital and off the ventilator, since you seem to be claiming they aren't effective.

Oh look, 100% of the ventilated customers are not vaccinated.

 

[SlickAg]

Wrong as always.

I'll let you try to figure out why.

Aren't you from Texas? Let's check in there, see how terribly the vaccine is at keeping people out the hospital and off the ventilator, since you seem to be claiming they aren't effective.

Oh look, 100% of the ventilated customers are not vaccinated.

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Awesome cherry picked data from...squints really hard, Amarillo. Nice.

So vaccines ARE effective against the delta variant and you misspoke earlier? You keep changing your story so it’s hard to tell.

Also, if vaccines work so well against variants, which seems to be your position on this post, please explain what’s going on in Austria. And why Germany is now also considering lockdowns. Thanks.

Bee tee dubs, how’s Pennsylvania doing? Must be scary to live up in your neck of the woods with all of those super spreader football games and other college-related activities.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

I bet any time taxi1 types “h” into google it automatically fills in “ospital census by vaccination status texas”