Depth perception mega thread

[Chris94]

I was at MEPS a few months ago and passed my physical. My eye sight is 20/20 uncorrected and no glasses. They tested my depth perception and I got Pass-C. After looking at the requirements on U. S. Navy Aeromedical Reference and Waiver Guide for SNA it says you must pass the AFVT with at least A – D and no misses (I had no idea what the requirement was when I went to MEPS).

My recruiter said he submitted my package for SNA SWO and NFO in that order...If the requirement for pilot is Pass-D do you think I got some type of waiver? Or how was he able to submit my application for SNA if I didn’t get to D on my DP test?

Why SWO before NFO? There's also no depth perception requirement for NFO...

 

[srichar1]

Why SWO before NFO? There's also no depth perception requirement for NFO...

I have no idea why SWO before NFO - that’s just the order my recruiter put for my top 3 programs.

And yes, I know there is no requirement for NFO, but my number one program is pilot...in which my recruiter submitted my application for.

 

[Chris94]

I have no idea why SWO before NFO - that’s just the order my recruiter put for my top 3 programs.

And yes, I know there is no requirement for NFO, but my number one program is pilot...in which my recruiter submitted my application for.

You choose what order you want those in, not your recruiter. I'd get in touch with him and try to get that changed. My number one program was pilot too, but I still put NFO right after.

 

[srichar1]

You choose what order you want those in, not your recruiter. I'd get in touch with him and try to get that changed. My number one program was pilot too, but I still put NFO right after.

I will see what he can do, but he said it was already submitted. And for pilot how was he able to submit that with my DP test? It said Pass - C on my MEPS doc. He said he submitted pilot as my first choice

 

[Chris94]

I will see what he can do, but he said it was already submitted. And for pilot how was he able to submit that with my DP test? It said Pass - C on my MEPS doc. He said he submitted pilot as my first choice

Yeah, sounds like he didn't look at the requirements.

 

[srichar1]

Yeah, sounds like he didn't look at the requirements.

That is what I thought as well, but RecruitingGuru said a recruiter cannot submit an application without being PQ for the program by MEPS...

So if my recruiter says he submitted my package as Pilot first choice that means I was not NPQ for the program?

 

[Chris94]

That is what I thought as well, but RecruitingGuru said a recruiter cannot submit an application without being PQ for the program by MEPS...

So if my recruiter says he submitted my package as Pilot first choice that means I was not NPQ for the program?

As far as I know, to be selected SNA, you have to pass D for the DP test.

 

[srichar1]

As far as I know, to be selected SNA, you have to pass D for the DP test.

What do you suggest I say to my recruiter?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

What do you suggest I say to my recruiter?

“You done messed up A-A-Ron”

 

[browntown]

What do you suggest I say to my recruiter?

Ask him/her for a copy of your N3M physical qualification letter. I believe it should say which programs you’re qualified to apply for based on your MEPS physical. From there you should at least be able to know for sure whether you’re even being considered for SNA.

 

[mightymighty]

Hello everyone.
I'm new to this board and had a few questions/seeking advice.

I'm sitting on a fighter slot with the Air National Guard and I just went for my air force physical this week -

I didnt pass.

Everything was okay except for the depth perception test. Idk if the Navy does the same test but it's the one with 5 small circles and 1 stands out from the rest. You have to get a certain amount of lines right to pass. I didnt hit enough of them and the eye doctor said that I was close to waiverable limits but that he wouldnt submit one for me.

It took me 4 years to get a fighter slot. I'm not going to quit. There are still some options for me that I'm pursuing to keep my slot and get a waiver but it's not guaranteed.

Is the depth perception test the same for the navy as it is with the air force? if the test is different and things dont work out w the AF I would pursue a navy slot.

Any feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Also FWIW - I passed the damn test at MEPs.

Best,
-mm

 

[rickman]

It was a very weird series of events. My old recruiter (who I decided to get rid of) called me and told me that I failed my DP test at MEPS. She told me she got clearance from MEPS for me to go my private eye doctor and get a consultation there. If I passed that test, they would accept it.

Then, I talked to my current recruiter and he said that if I go to my private eye doctor, it might get me back into MEPS for a retest. So...I went and passed that test, submitted the doctors summary to my recruiter who sent it along to MEPS. A week later I got my N3M stating that I was fully qualified.

I’m in a similar situation in that I failed DP at MEPS, so I went to a private eye doctor and was told I have no issues with DP (I also have 20/20). The problem is that my recruiter is having issues with even getting me back to MEPS for a re-test. If you don’t mind me asking what MEPS station you went through?

 

[E6BFlightComp]

For anyone that experiences a problem with Depth Perception at MEPS, hopefully here is a story to persuade you that you are not screwed. I was an SNA applicant going through the Phoenix MEPS command in Arizona. After initial briefing, we were taken into a room to check vision. I was determined to have 20/20 and passed everything until it came to depth perception. I was asked to perform the Randot test with the special glasses on, the nurse applying the eye exam asked me to hold the randot page at arms length (which for me is around 36 inches) in which I couldn't determine the odd dot out for over half of the numbers required. This problem wasn't prevalent until I got all of my waivers, but was DQ'd because I didn't pass depth perception.
I followed up with what my Recruiter said had to be a Military Optometrist by driving from Phoenix (mid Corona Virus) to Vegas in order to meet with a retired Air Force Lt Col that was an optometrist at Nellis. He proceeded to cuss out the woman from MEPS because the test is supposed to be administered from 16 inches, or regular reading distance. After the re-administering of the test I was able to get a waiver and cleared for active duty as a Naval Aviator. He proceeded to tell me that students passing this test on those standards were actually far sighted and can't properly perceive depth in a tight environment (aircraft cockpits).

So don't be afraid to challenge a decision by MEPS with a specialist if you really care about getting in.

 

[EScot]

For anyone that experiences a problem with Depth Perception at MEPS, hopefully here is a story to persuade you that you are not screwed. I was an SNA applicant going through the Phoenix MEPS command in Arizona. After initial briefing, we were taken into a room to check vision. I was determined to have 20/20 and passed everything until it came to depth perception. I was asked to perform the Randot test with the special glasses on, the nurse applying the eye exam asked me to hold the randot page at arms length (which for me is around 36 inches) in which I couldn't determine the odd dot out for over half of the numbers required. This problem wasn't prevalent until I got all of my waivers, but was DQ'd because I didn't pass depth perception.
I followed up with what my Recruiter said had to be a Military Optometrist by driving from Phoenix (mid Corona Virus) to Vegas in order to meet with a retired Air Force Lt Col that was an optometrist at Nellis. He proceeded to cuss out the woman from MEPS because the test is supposed to be administered from 16 inches, or regular reading distance. After the re-administering of the test I was able to get a waiver and cleared for active duty as a Naval Aviator. He proceeded to tell me that students passing this test on those standards were actually far sighted and can't properly perceive depth in a tight environment (aircraft cockpits).

So don't be afraid to challenge a decision by MEPS with a specialist if you really care about getting in.

I was in a similar situation. I failed my DP test at MEPS so my recruiter set an appointment up for me to retake the DP test with a Military Optometrist at a National Guard base, which I passed. After my recruiter sent the passing results in, I was issued a new N3M letter and was good to go for SNA.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

I was in a similar situation. I failed my DP test at MEPS so my recruiter set an appointment up for me to retake the DP test with a Military Optometrist at a National Guard base, which I passed. After my recruiter sent the passing results in, I was issued a new N3M letter and was good to go for SNA.

you guys are the rarity, many military facilities will not see civilians, and with reductions in military medical facilities this could be more common.