I know that it's hard to pick up nuance and sarcasm from text, but let's not get bogged down in minutiae. Shoes and aviators will always be at eachother's throats, it's just a fact of life. As for the San Francisco, I know that none of us know the facts of what really happened, but I think that it's a pretty safe assumption that someone F'ed up pretty bad. **ATTENTION, SARCASM** Perhaps if their skipper had been allowed to go to SWOS, he would have been better able to navigate. **END SARCASM**adam28270 said:Ok, then what I don't understand is that you commented on how SWO's are going out in the fleet directly. And then compared it to a Sub Officer? ANY officer that serves on a sub goes through a very tough school to get there. Just getting into the nuclear power school is a challenge. And then from nuc school, they go up to a prototype program and then a SUBMARINE SCHOOL, where... they learn how to operate and NAVIGATE a sub.
So, I ask you, how does your comment reflect on the idea that SWO's are going directly into the fleet to learn how to navigate OTJ?
Also, sub officers, do all this, to endure weeks of no sunlight, soo..... I wouldn't exactly call them "lunkheads" either. I for one, have great respect for anyone who serves on a sub, enlisted or officer.
Is that better?
Brett