F/A-18 for crowd control?

[ZoomByU]

Anyone heard of using the hornet for crowd control? I was talking to one of the personal trainers at my gym who did two tours with 1st MEF and he said they would use the hornet to do a low slow pass then nose up and use the jet blast to disperse the crowd. He said it was very effective. Anyone heard of this before?

 

[skidkid]

nope, I think he is full of sh!t. I have seen 53s used to "blow" the crowd away wiht rotor wash but it makes them vulnerable if the conflict escallates.
Hornets were used to do low passes for intimidation but it wasnt slow and it wasnt to employ the jet blast it was to say next time they will be cleared hot kind of thing.

 

[East]

Wake-up call

Back in the '70 the RNLAF used F-104s for breaking up a train hi-jack which lasted for 2 weeks in the middle of the winter (no heating at all). A squadron of Starfighters from the RNLAF were used as a diversion while the RNLMC/Anti-terrorist units made their way into the train.

During the initial assault RNLMC and RNLA anti-terrosrist units (and sharpshooters) "compartimented" the train with the use of .50 guns by aiming at the several hallways, pinning down the terrorists in their sleeping quarters so they couldn't harm the hi-jacked pax with their uzi's.

Total of 18 F-104s as low as 20-30 ft (below tree level) on full a AB is quite wake-up call at 05:00lt. None of the terrorists survived and two pax out of 70 were wasted as they ran into the hallways were the .50 were doing their preventive bullet shower.

Our (then) left orientated parlement was not happy with all that military intervention and opted for other possabilities to end the 2 week hi-jack. Famous quote of the Marine Commander at that time was: "Let's change the anti-collision light lenses from red to blue, paint the F-104s white and stencil POLICE on the side...." He retired very soon after this quote, thinking ..... :icon_king

 

[BigRed389]

Back in the '70 the RNLAF used F-104s for breaking up a train hi-jack which lasted for 2 weeks in the middle of the winter (no heating at all). A squadron of Starfighters from the RNLAF were used as a diversion while the RNLMC/Anti-terrorist units made their way into the train.

During the initial assault RNLMC and RNLA anti-terrosrist units (and sharpshooters) "compartimented" the train with the use of .50 guns by aiming at the several hallways, pinning down the terrorists in their sleeping quarters so they couldn't harm the hi-jacked pax with their uzi's.

Total of 18 F-104s as low as 20-30 ft (below tree level) on full a AB is quite wake-up call at 05:00lt. None of the terrorists survived and two pax out of 70 were wasted as they ran into the hallways were the .50 were doing their preventive bullet shower.

Our (then) left orientated parlement was not happy with all that military intervention and opted for other possabilities to end the 2 week hi-jack. Famous quote of the Marine Commander at that time was: "Let's change the anti-collision light lenses from red to blue, paint the F-104s white and stencil POLICE on the side...." He retired very soon after this quote, thinking ..... :icon_king

...creative.

 

[Schnugg]

Actually we do use the F/A-18 and currently the F-14Ds for SOF missions.
SOF= Show of Force. A low fly by with some flares popped out at the right time canbe very helpful to a group of marines or army soldiers on the ground. The very clear threat is do what we ask or he will be back.

Has been used to get attention (Iraq) and to get locals to bring weapons in for turn in (Afghanistan).

r/
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[skidkid]

yeah like I said above, but we dont try to employ the jet blast as a weapon

 

[SteveG75]

Actually we do use the F/A-18 and currently the F-14Ds for SOF missions.
SOF= Show of Force. A low fly by with some flares popped out at the right time canbe very helpful to a group of marines or army soldiers on the ground. The very clear threat is do what we ask or he will be back.

Has been used to get attention (Iraq) and to get locals to bring weapons in for turn in (Afghanistan).

r/
G

My first cruise, we got diverted to Somalia after the Task Force Ranger battle. Micheal Durant mentions hearing jet flyby's in his book.

The first flight was two F-14A's at 500' over Mogadishu in full blower. We then did several days of flight ops within sight of the beach.

 

[Slammer2]

Actually we do use the F/A-18 and currently the F-14Ds for SOF missions.
SOF= Show of Force. A low fly by with some flares popped out at the right time canbe very helpful to a group of marines or army soldiers on the ground. The very clear threat is do what we ask or he will be back.

Has been used to get attention (Iraq) and to get locals to bring weapons in for turn in (Afghanistan).

r/
G

I saw some downloaded internet video like this. I think it was supposed to be from Afghanistan. Some guys were shooting at us from far away and the troops couldnt hit them for whatever reason and some jet did a high speed pass real low over the position. they didnt shoot back anymore. Not sure who took the video though.

 

[Blutonski816]

^ nice. Damn cowards.

It's not cowardice... it's being smart for once...

are you gonna open fire on something that can smoke your ass before you can hear it's engines roar by you??

 

[Blutonski816]

You're awfully pasionate about something you personally don't have to deal with....

besides... if you're enemy knows your position, are you gonna stick around for long??

 

[mattr]

^ you're right, but I hate it when they run away and hide. It pisses me off, shoot and run, shoot and run.

America did a little of it to Britain during the Revolutionary War. Although most was by conventional means...I'm sure some militias used hit and run tactics...It's all a matter of perspective.

 

[Fly Navy]

^ nice. Damn cowards.

Reply when you understand how not to become a target. Fire and movement. I'm not a Marine and I even know that.

 

[Fly Navy]

Fire, move, fire, move is a little different than shoot and run, isn't it?

Asymetric warfare. They aren't stupid. They KNOW they can't go toe-to-toe with us. Why would they fight like a conventional army if they know they would get slaughtered? Work smarter, not harder. It's why they blow a hole in one of our destroyers. They don't have any other way to hit it. I know frontal assaults are glorious in the movies, but when you're fighting a far superior force (us), it's a good way to die fast. We have armor, we have technology, we have training.

 

[Punk]

We have armor, we have technology, we have training.

we have Chuck Norris

 

[Fly Navy]

we have Chuck Norris