Flight School backed up

[sevenhelmet]

Yeah…just try getting off the DoD National Capital Region alert list. I’ll be in my grave with some robotic voice telling me, “To acknowledge, Prezz 1”

Reason number 1,597,496 to never ever take a Pentagon tour.

 

[Dhoop29]

Based on timeline, it was either Operation “Enduring Training” on the Lincoln while missing the holidays at home waiting for TBD relief carrier (because God Forbid we not have a carrier in CENTCOM) and wondering about the resolution to “will they / won’t they” start yet another war with another country in the Middle East while doing absolute fuck all in terms of combat or theater security because the ship was stuffed in the proverbial corner of the Middle Eastern AO for 8 months straight. But the punchline was three “port calls” to Duqm, Oman.

Or

A pandemic deployment, which from what heard was even worse.

…yeah, I’m glad I got out. ?

I flew out to the Lincoln as y’all pulled into Bahrain to fly with 103 and was listening to how terrible that deployment was. COD’d back over to the Truman when it finally pulled into 5th fleet thinking “I’m so glad our deployment won’t be nearly as bad”.


Oh sweet summer child…

 

[Gatordev]

Of course there are likely multiple shutdowns and an extremely tumultuous election season ahead, so… we shall see.

You forgot the contract dispute and appeal.

 

[sevenhelmet]

You forgot the contract dispute and appeal.

No doubt…

 

[CClark533]

So it looks like the government will be shut down. Will this affect flight training?

 

[Mouselovr]

So it looks like the government will be shut down. Will this affect flight training?

In primary land, we were told no. Business as usual.
(corpus)

 

[villo0692]

In primary land, we were told no. Business as usual.

Same here in Whiting

 

[Swanee]

That looks like a good idea, sir.

Counterpoint: let’s fly the wings off the T-45s so congress can force-feed us the T-7 like they did the T-6.

Other than the shmish-shmortion of a transition plan that CNATRA executed, how is the T-6 in any way not better than the T-34?

 

[Swanee]

In primary land, we were told no. Business as usual.
(corpus)

Same here in Whiting

Just wait until everything is a local flight, no ccx contract gas, and your completer paperwork is all sorts of fucked sideways to Saturn because the GS-9 NATOPs clerk and StuCon admin haven't been to work, or paid, in a while....

"How the F do you have a negative NSS and still have wings?" "Hey, I'm on the McCarthy plan!"

 

[sevenhelmet]

This is a side point, but I think none of us should owe Federal taxes for the duration of any federal government shutdown.

Just sayin’…

 

[JTS11]

This is a side point, but I think none of us should owe Federal taxes for the duration of any federal government shutdown.

Just sayin’…

And everyone in the legislative branch should forfeit all pay and benefits...

 

[Randy Daytona]

Other than the shmish-shmortion of a transition plan that CNATRA executed, how is the T-6 in any way not better than the T-34?

I thought the T-6’s didn’t have beta, thus limiting the number of outlying fields that could be used? Also, I thought the T-6 had problems with landing gear, brakes, and wheels that were not durable enough?

 

[Swanee]

I thought the T-6’s didn’t have beta, thus limiting the number of outlying fields that could be used? Also, I thought the T-6 had problems with landing gear, brakes, and wheels that were not durable enough?

I heard those things were more of a training and training syllabus flow problem that an airplane problem. Tires/gear/brakes not robust enough for students? The AF had that figured out years prior. Sounds like a copout to me.

My understanding was that CNATRA tried to use the T-34 syllabus and techniques to teach the T-6 syllabus which lead to a lot of unnecessary growing pains.

My peers in primary were the first whiting T-6 studs at VT-6, and their both their NATOPS and syllabus were changing weekly if not daily. That's not a good way to run pilot training.


There are a few folks here who taught at the VTs during the transition. Maybe they could shed some light.

 

[jointhelocalizer]

My understanding was that CNATRA tried to use the T-34 syllabus and techniques to teach the T-6 syllabus which lead to a lot of unnecessary growing pains.

There are a few folks here who taught at the VTs during the transition. Maybe they could shed some light.

I wasn't a student/IP during the transition, but there were still a lot of T-34isms in the syllabus years later. The biggest one was that you sat in the back for most instrument hops. There was also a "requirement" that you had to use a view limiting device if not in actual IMC. Obviously, the T-6 didn't have the hood, so while the view-limiting device was waived. The back seat flights remained. I heard in later syllabi, they made most instrument hops a front seat flight.

 

[Mouselovr]

I wasn't a student/IP during the transition, but there were still a lot of T-34isms in the syllabus years later. The biggest one was that you sat in the back for most instrument hops. There was also a "requirement" that you had to use a view limiting device if not in actual IMC. Obviously, the T-6 didn't have the hood, so while the view-limiting device was waived. The back seat flights remained. I heard in later syllabi, they made most instrument hops a front seat flight.

A recent instructor told me they were unsat'ing people when they couldn't land in the front after being in the back for awhile. As a result, they changed the syllabus to almost exclusive front flying.