PMPT
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probably also doesn't help that they have elected to place the two main training bases for primarily VFR flying in places with notoriously bad weather throughout a good portion of the year
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Flight School backed up
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Be careful or you’ll be doing primary in Lubbock!
Don't worry, flight school is just prepping you for when you end up in Lemoore and weather cancel every day from late November to early February because of the fog...
Is anyone privy on datapoints on AETC vs CNATRA times-to-train? I personally subscribe to the CC/Pcola are dumb places for initial training line of thinking, but I’m curious if there’s actually an appreciable difference in timelines compared to the AF bases with supposedly more favorable characteristics. Or more importantly, one that would justify an enormous asspain and expense moving to a different base.
Hey, it’s just two more months until the Whidbey MOAs get perennially socked in up to FL 250.
This requires Congressional approval, which means data is only part of the issue, and perhaps not even the only one.
There’s a reason NAS Meridian is home to the G. V. "Sonny" Montgomery Navy Reserve Center, and probably there’s reason it’s still around, given that Trent Lott was as senior a Senator as he was in BRAC 2005.
NS Everett is where it is due to the influence of Scoop Jackson, when by all rights it should have been in Port Angeles.
Would bet jets/manning has a much more significant impact on training times than weather.
Air Force does UPT in Columbus, MS so it is not like the weather they are getting is significantly better than places like Meridian.
For the life of me I don't understand why they don't approach it as a retention issue and fix the personnel system.
Every dude you keep on AD saves you years of training someone new. How much $$ and time does it take to make someone that can MC a RED FLAG.. and we just let them walk.
Every dude you keep on AD saves you years of training someone new. How much $$ and time does it take to make someone that can MC a RED FLAG.. and we just let them walk.
exNavyOffRec
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Interested to hear why you feel it should have been in Port Angeles instead of Everett? Sen Jackson died in 1983 prior to the announcement of the selection.
BFR isn’t a thing with airline training but there’s Annual re-qualification sims you go to every 9-12 months.
Doesn’t that meet the requirements for a BFR, even though they aren’t called the same thing.
It does for all the category and classes you hold a pilot certificate for...
Yes- under Part 61, a BFR is not required if you have completed a pilot proficiency or practical check with an examiner for a type rating within the previous two years.
PMPT
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haha you make a fair point ?
although ironically i think TW4 started doing dets out to ... Roswell ... because the weather was better. not to mention TW1 and TW2 basically cannot maintain production without multiple dets per year to El Centro. I had my fun in Corpus, but it would seemingly have made more sense to put the primary training bases in desert-like environments.
then again I'm getting more actual IFR time than ever in my flight career in my current east coast base, so swings and roundabouts ...
Got cancelled for WEEKS in primary contacts for weather in Corpus. Then comes along a DET to Roswell, and I finish all of contacts/Aero and start forms within 3 weeks. That got me thinking, maybe we didn't choose the best locations for these training bases...