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Forbes: Airline Pilots #19 of 25 best paying jobs

GO_AV8_DevilDog

Round 2...
Contributor
I imagine it would be something along the lines of:

31+:
Have Large house with private airstrip, a Pilatus, and a very fat 401k. Drink margarita's and enjoy life.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
I wonder how this scenario would have turned out if this gentleman decided to stay single and not to have kids? :)

Not to worry; not to wonder .... quote:

"70 years old: Hotel alarm clock set by previous FedEx crew member goes Off at 1:00 AM. Have heart attack and die with smile on face. Happy at last!" ....


One way or another; it all ends the same. Just try to have that 'smile' on your face ... :)
 

GO_AV8_DevilDog

Round 2...
Contributor
Not to worry; not to wonder .... quote:

"70 years old: Have Hooker over till 1:00 AM. Have heart attack as a result of the stimulation and blow and die with smile on face. ....


One way or another; it all ends the same. Just try to have that 'smile' on your face ... :)

fixed it for you:D
 

zipmartin

Never been better
pilot
Contributor
...........
60 years old: Wife #3 (sexy model) says you're too damned old and no fun. She leaves. She takes most of your assets. You're forced to retire due to Age 60 rule. No money left.
...........

Written like a man who has been there!! This accurately describes at least half of the guys I flew with as an FO. I recently flew with a guy who came back after the age 60 rule changed. He had gone to South America to fly upon his first retirement and had to go back to the bottom of the seniority list after being re-hired here. I had flown as his FO years ago.
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
22 years old: Graduated from college. Go to military flight school. Become hot shot fighter pilot. Get married.

25 years old: Have 1st kid. Now hotshot fighter jock getting shot at in war. Just want to get back to USA in one piece. Get back to USA as primary flight instructor pilot. Get bored. Volunteer f or war again.

29 years old: Get back from war all tuckered out. Wants out of military.

30 years old: Join airline. World is your oyster.

31 years old: Buy flashy car, house and lots of toys. Get over the military poverty feeling.

32 years old: Divorce boring 1st wife. Pay child support and maintenance. Drink lots of booze and screw around while looking for 2nd wife.

33 years old: Furloughed. Join military reserve unit and fly for fun. Repeat above for a few more years.

35 years old: Airline recall. More screwing around but looking forward to a good marriage and settling down.

36 years old: Marry young spunky 25 year old flight attendant.

37 years old: Buy another house. Gave first one to first wife.

38 years old: Give in to second wife to have more kids. Father again. Wife concerned about "risky" military Reserve flying so you resign commission.

39 years old: Now a captain. Hooray! Upgrade house, buy boat, small single engine airplane and even flashier cars.

42 years old: 2nd wife runs off with wealthy investment banker but still wants to share house (100%).

43 years old: Settle with wife # 2 and resolve to stay away from women forever. Seek a position as a check Captain for 10% pay override to pay mounting bills. Move into 1 bedroom apartment with window air conditioners.

44 years old: Company resizes and you're returned to copilot status. 25% pay cut. Become simulator instructor for 10 % override pay.

49 years old: Captain again. Move into 2-bedroom luxury apartment with central air conditioning.

50 years old: Meet sexy Danish model on International trip. She loves You and says you are very "beeeeg!"

51 years old: Marry sexy Danish model for wife #3. Buy big house, boat, twin engine airplane and upgrade cars.

52 years old: Sexy model wants kids (not again). Resolve to get vasectomy.

54 years old: Try to talk wife out of kids, but presto, she's pregnant. She says she got sick after taking the pill. Accident, sorry, won't happen again.

55 years old: Father of triplets.

56 years old: Wife #3 wants very big house, bigger boat and very flashy cars, "worried" about your private flying and wants you to sell twin engine airplane. You give in. You buy a motorcycle and join motorcycle club.

57 years old: Make rash investments to try and have enough money for retirement.

59 years old: Lose money on rash investment a nd get audited by the IRS. You have to fly 100% International night trips just to keep up with child support and alimony to wife #1 and #2.

60 years old: Wife #3 (sexy model) says you're too damned old and no fun. She leaves. She takes most of your assets. You're forced to retire due to Age 60 rule. No money left.

61 years old: Now Captain on a non-schedule South American 727 freight outfit and living in a non-air conditioned studio apartment directly underneath the final appro ach to runway 9 at Miami Int'l. You have "interesting" Hispanic neighbors who ask you if you've ever flown DC-3's.

65 years old: Lose FAA medical and get job as sim instructor. Don't look forward to years of getting up at 2 AM for 3 AM sim in every god-forsaken town you train in due to the fact your carrier can find cheap, off-hours sim time at various Brand X Airlines.

70 years old: Hotel alarm clock set by previous FedEx crewmember goes Off at 1:00 AM. Have heart attack and die with smile on face. Happy at last!

:) So where exactly does A4's fall in here??
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
This looks way too much like my current life. Except the time line is a little optimistic for most guys to have done 2 sea tours and a IP tour by 30.
 

HAL Pilot

Well-Known Member
None
Contributor
I assume they are including the regionals, fractionals, etc.
I think that average pay is only for the major airlines. Very few regional pilots except for the most senior check airman/Capt. crack the $100k/year threshold. Plus with a $20k starting salary and more pilots at the regionals, etc, there is no way at the current major airline pay scales that the average industry wide could be that high with 2/3 of the pilots making less.
 

FrankTheTank

Professional Pot Stirrer
pilot
I think HotRod made from Apr 08 to Apr 09

I still can't believe he got out (retired)! I thought he would be die hard active duty for life!

I think one thing to note about extra flying is that if you live in domicile extra doesn't really impact QOL... Sit reserve and fly very little and then pick up a trip or 2 (out and backs) and a walla pick up a couple grand extra a month and still minimal time away from base! But trash-hauler system form is much different than the people-haulers..

30 hours & 57 minutes with 7 landings in last 60 days! Of which 7:45 was on Friday on reserve call-out. YTD 64:23 w/ 18 ldgs.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
....I think one thing to note about extra flying is that if you live in domicile extra doesn't really impact QOL... Sit reserve and fly very little and then pick up a trip or 2 (out and backs) and a walla pick up a couple grand extra a month and still minimal time away from base! But trash-hauler system form is much different than the people-haulers.....
And the international system is much different from the domestic fliers ... the few times I sat Reserve I never got the month 'off' or flew 'little' --- get assigned and/or pick up a trip THERE and you might be gone up to 13 days ...and it will probably consist of flying pax AND haulin' trash as you could get both in any given Whale pattern --
:)
 

FrankTheTank

Professional Pot Stirrer
pilot
And the international system is much different from the domestic fliers ... the few times I sat Reserve I never got the month 'off' or flew 'little' --- get assigned and/or pick up a trip THERE and you might be gone up to 13 days ...and it will probably consist of flying pax AND haulin' trash as you could get both in any given Whale pattern --
:)

Our MD-11 reserve guys don't get much international off reserve, pays too much for guys to call in sick or drop in this economy. So they end up doing some domestic reserve and pick up international out of open time when they can find it.. Cause it is gone well before it gets to a reserve guy. Now on the Bus, most pairings are 1 day so easy to max QOL even with a little extra..
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
Our MD-11 reserve guys....
Yeah, you guys had/have it relatively 'nice' in your heavy community, I'll give you that ... our DC-10's were 'do-able' on Reserve as you describe in your scenario(s) as there was CONUS/Honolulu flying available to pad a Reserve sked -- kinda same for the big A-Busses, if you really 'worked it'.

I just didn't want to fly w/ the 'junior varsity' -- a reference coined by our Diesel-10 drivers -- when I could make the starting roster on the 'varsity' ... :)

CONUS/OCCONUS, freight-doggies, or flyin' complain-y pax ... I did 'em all and still preferred flyin' the Big Iron out over the Big Pond ...

Domestic -- bah, humbug: the food's the same, the language is the same, the money's the same, the hotels are the same, there's too much airport traffic, and the water gives me the shits ... boring ... :)

And any night I didn't sleep in my own bed affected my quality-of-life ... :D
 

FrankTheTank

Professional Pot Stirrer
pilot
Domestic -- bah, humbug: the food's the same, the language is the same, the money's the same, the hotels are the same, there's too much airport traffic, and the water gives me the shits ... boring ... :)

100% true... But I got little kids so the trade off is worth it for now.. Except since I do the vampire thing, there ain't much traffic... I might decide on the international thing when the kids get bigger but right they grow so quick would prefer to miss as little as I can. So I just sit on reserve or bid out and backs... Haven't missed a holiday in the last 5 years!
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
... Haven't missed a holiday in the last 5 years!
Holiday ... holiday .... hmmmmmmm ... I'm sorry, I don't unnerstan' that concept ... holiday; what's THAT??? :eek::)

What's that ol' sayin' ... ??

"The ONLY people who work holidays are prostitutes & pilots ..." :D
 
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