Foreign Turboweenie Porn

[C420sailor]

Just came across this T-34 solo vid from what appears to be the Peruvian Navy. They have some pretty funny traditions!

 

[porw0004]

And here I was expecting this to be some German fetish video utilizing gas-powered sex toys... what a disappointment!


I like the paint scheme, though I think our colors make more sense.

 

[yak52driver]

I might be mistaken, but early in the vid it looks like there was a paddles guiding him while he was landing. Do the US studs have a paddles when you're training in the T-34C?

 

[Oilcover]

I might be mistaken, but early in the vid it looks like there was a paddles guiding him while he was landing. Do the US studs have a paddles when you're training in the T-34C?

We had an RDO, or Runway Duty Officer, back where I did primary. They didn't give any glidepath instruction. Their only job was to ensure the aircraft coming in had three down and locked. At outlying fields, they also acted like a mini-tower to deconflict traffic in the pattern.

 

[Jim123]

We had an RDO, or Runway Duty Officer, back where I did primary. They didn't give any glidepath instruction. Their only job was to ensure the aircraft coming in had three down and locked. At outlying fields, they also acted like a mini-tower to deconflict traffic in the pattern.

I think this might ebb and flow over the years. We had a stud at Whiting whose job it was to wave the paddles and hit the big red button on the cart if he saw an unsafe gear condition. I remember an IP being out there if there were solo ops going on to basically do the same thing as the stud(?). The OLF RDO has always been an IP... I think. Not sure what the differences were at Corpus, mainside, etc.

On the helo training side we have gone from no OLF RDO, to IP RDO, to stud RDO, with varying responsibilities each time the job description gets fine-tuned. At least they don't have to check for landing gear problems when you have skids, but they do keep track of which side numbers are working the OLF and which ones are monitoring the OLF freq while they are off doing high work nearby.

Good times

 

[FlyingOnFumes]

I might be mistaken, but early in the vid it looks like there was a paddles guiding him while he was landing. Do the US studs have a paddles when you're training in the T-34C?

Flying the Charlie Mentor
www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepT34C.html

Not that it applies now (except maybe for AOA approaches), according to the historical article above, apparently the original T-34 model (because of it was replacing the T-28) was envisioned to practice carrier landings in (reason for the beefy landing gear from the Beech Duke). That requirement was evidently dropped, but the beefy gear remained.

 

[nittany03]

Flying the Charlie Mentor
www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepT34C.html

Not that it applies now (except maybe for AOA approaches), according to the historical article above, apparently the original T-34 model (because of it was replacing the T-28) was envisioned to practice carrier landings in (reason for the beefy landing gear from the Beech Duke). That requirement was evidently dropped, but the beefy gear remained.

I'm sure it proved beneficial for other reasons . . .

"Flare. FLARE! I HAVE THE CONTROLS!" *crunch*

 

[Gatordev]

I might be mistaken, but early in the vid it looks like there was a paddles guiding him while he was landing. Do the US studs have a paddles when you're training in the T-34C?

The "paddles" in the video is just a lineman. They cut away pretty quick, but you can see the nose and spinner for a split second before the cut to the next shot.

 

[Oilcover]

I think this might ebb and flow over the years. We had a stud at Whiting whose job it was to wave the paddles and hit the big red button on the cart if he saw an unsafe gear condition. I remember an IP being out there if there were solo ops going on to basically do the same thing as the stud(?). The OLF RDO has always been an IP... I think. Not sure what the differences were at Corpus, mainside, etc.

That sounds about right. I think you had to be a post-solo stud to get RDO.

 

[rondebmar]

RDO at Saufley saved my butt one day in 1961...was solo in a T-34B, VT-1, coming in to land...started slowly drifting down into a tree line, between the ninety and final...and really didn't give a damn!

Was shaken out of my "reverie" by frantic screams of "Pull Up, Pull Up, Wave Off, Wave Off"...don't recall if I landed that pass, or went around...vaguely recall being surrounded by folks as I deplaned...(and damn, was I "loopy")...taken to sick bay...blood test revealed an extraordinarily high CO reading...

Maintenance was immediately notified...found a large crack in the bird's exhaust system...

Had just survived "close call" #1!!

 

[FlyingOnFumes]

Flying the Charlie Mentor
www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepT34C.html

Some interesting facts covered in the article:

1) Hmm.... first move towards "Primediate" and Total Syllabus?

"Reportedly, the Navy's idea is to eventually dump all their current T-34s and T-28B and Cs (hear that warbird freaks?), start a new training program called the Eagle Syllabus, and use only the T-34C, T-2 Buckeye, and TA-4 for training."

2) While the original T-34 A/B wings were from the Bonanza, the T-34C's wings were taken from the Beechcraft Baron (twin).

3) The ventral strakes underneath the empennage / aft fuselage and (presumably) the dorsal fin on the vertical stab were added to attenuate the nasty spin characteristics of the T-34C when it first rolled out.

"there was a time it wasn't so gentle, and that's the reason for the unusual twin ventrals under the tail and the long strakes ahead of each stabilizer. The strakes work like vortex generators to energize the airflow over the rudder. Without the strokes, the rudder couldn't get enough energy out of the slip stream to stop autorotation of the spin."

4) The Pratt & Whitney PT6A turboprops are artificially power/torque limited (both via mechanical and fuel control means) to less than what they are truly capable of in order to increase lifespan.

5) The PT6A with a free power turbine was chosen over a constant-speed propellor design for reasons of noise abatement:

"One of the major considerations in setting up Charlie was one of noise. The military has enough enemies around its training bases without sending hundreds of students off across roof tops with the scream of turbines deafening alligators for miles. That's why the PT-6. It's a throttleable turbine rather than a constant speed unit. It reacts just like any other engine to throttle commands because the gas generator, burner section and turbine wheels aren't connected directly to the propeller gear box. They are interfaced by a couple of turbine wheels that work in close proximity but don't actually touch, so when one gets rolling, the other follows but with a slight lag. All the throttle controls is the gas generator section. The engine is quiet on the ground, or in the air too for that matter, so that most of the noise appears to be from the propeller rather than turbine whine."

 

[usmarinemike]

5) The PT6A with a free power turbine was chosen over a constant-speed propellor design for reasons of noise abatement:

I had never heard a T34C until I came to FL, and it was really weird to me that it was all propellor noise and no turbine. Now I know why. Good link.

 

[mmx1]

It's been a while, but doesn't the T-34 use a constant-speed prop? I think they mean turbine, though I have no idea why you would have a constant-speed turbine or why it'd be noisier.

 

[usmarinemike]

It's been a while, but doesn't the T-34 use a constant-speed prop? I think they mean turbine, though I have no idea why you would have a constant-speed turbine or why it'd be noisier.

My spitball guess would be that in earlier turboprops the reduction gearbox was connected to the compressor turbine. The propellor may need more freedom than the compressor could give it, so maybe holding the turbine constant and changing everything else was the way to go.

Could be talking completely out of my ass. I much prefer the "I Believe" Method of world understanding.

 

[MIDNJAC]

I like the part where they throw each other into a mud pit. I think that would have made Corpus more fun.