From NROTC to SEALS

[MIDNJAC]

To be fair, for an 18-20 yr old kid, becoming a SEAL is a lot closer on the horizon in terms of plausibility than astronaut.....though they are both lofty goals.

 

[sickboy]

Less than 1 per NROTC unit per year. Probably on average .65

You have to be pre screened to select NSW out of NROTC - and it means generally NCAA Division I athlete .

My sophomore year we had two guys get picked up and get through BUD/S. Then we had another two the year after I graduated.

 

[JWL]

So, what the heck are the chances of this young lady making it? She must quite an amazing gal to be even be considered for SEAL training.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/12739/rotc-cadet-could-become-first-female-us-navy-seal

 

[Gatordev]

So, what the heck are the chances of this young lady making it? She must quite an amazing gal to be even be considered for SEAL training.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/12739/rotc-cadet-could-become-first-female-us-navy-seal

Who knows and who cares? If it's something you want, focus on what you need to do and do that to be successful, however you define that.

 

[JWL]

Lol..fair enough.

 

[JWL]

Regardless of commissioning source, how long does it take for a new ensign to get the trident and then join the teams as (assistant platoon commander? I assume the other officer, the platoon commander is a full lieutenant?) . I have read different things, that it can be a 1.5 years or 2.5 years from commissioning if there is foreign language instruction involved?

And, does a new ensign selected for BUD/S typically start training immediately after graduation/commissioning after a short leave (one month?), or is there typically some other duty involved while the new ensign awaits for the next class (how many BUD/S classes typically in a year?).

Finally, does a SEAL officer typically no longer go out to the field and lead other troops once he hits 0-4? Is such an officer usually a team XO by then and therefore in the rear?

Thanks.

 

[Brett327]

That's a great question for a site that focuses on NSW.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

https://www.sealswcc.com/forums/

I would also HIGHLY encourage to search before asking around.

 

[jmcquate]

Also http://jockopodcast2.com/

 

[JWL]

Thanks, both. I love that second site. Love the comedians here.

 

[froggystyle]

Regardless of commissioning source, how long does it take for a new ensign to get the trident and then join the teams as (assistant platoon commander? I assume the other officer, the platoon commander is a full lieutenant?) . I have read different things, that it can be a 1.5 years or 2.5 years from commissioning if there is foreign language instruction involved?

And, does a new ensign selected for BUD/S typically start training immediately after graduation/commissioning after a short leave (one month?), or is there typically some other duty involved while the new ensign awaits for the next class (how many BUD/S classes typically in a year?).

Finally, does a SEAL officer typically no longer go out to the field and lead other troops once he hits 0-4? Is such an officer usually a team XO by then and therefore in the rear?

Thanks.

After commission, it’s the same length as an E-dog, about 1.5-2 yrs until pinning of trident. Not sure if it still happens, but Os used to meet the edogs at the end of NSW prep course for a couple weeks of good PT and bonding. Then everyone would fly out to the strand together to get crushed.

6 BUD/S classes per year. Clockwork. No more no less.

AOIC is anywhere from ENS- LT. OIC is a full LT.

LCDR will still go out, but will let his LTs run the show. I’ve actually had my CO on target with me, more out of boredom than necessity

 

[JWL]

Thanks, Froggy. And, is the MSR typically 5 years from pinning of the trident?

 

[vxc961]

Thanks, Froggy. And, is the MSR typically 5 years from pinning of the trident?

Ok, it’s been long enough that I feel like I can jump in. I was a SWO who did a 2nd tour at SBT-20. Here’s what I saw for SEAL officers:

-most would get a staff type job as their first tour, to prepare them for life O4 and beyond.
-the best deal was to be “3rd O” which basically meant you had no responsibility and could work on tactics, confident that you’d get two more platoons
-the pinacle of an officer’s career would be platoon commander; after that, it was much more admin headaches (with lots of PT).
-At SBT, our SEAL O4s and above would often get called away for stuff. Your guess is as good as mine as to how operational vs. staff that was.

As far as NROTC goes... one of my fellow boat Det CDR’s actually finished BUD/S and then got picked up for an NROTC scholarship (so no trident). He told me it was iffy if he would get selected for SEAL and he was ready to prep for EOD.

That same guy told me that if my son wanted to go NSW, he’d be better off enlisting and then applying either through OCS or via NROTC as a badged SEAL.

In any case, good luck! I’ve known a bunch of good dudes who didnt make make it...and they’re still great dudes!

 

[Charles Edward]

Ok, it’s been long enough that I feel like I can jump in. I was a SWO who did a 2nd tour at SBT-20. Here’s what I saw for SEAL officers:

-most would get a staff type job as their first tour, to prepare them for life O4 and beyond.
-the best deal was to be “3rd O” which basically meant you had no responsibility and could work on tactics, confident that you’d get two more platoons
-the pinacle of an officer’s career would be platoon commander; after that, it was much more admin headaches (with lots of PT).
-At SBT, our SEAL O4s and above would often get called away for stuff. Your guess is as good as mine as to how operational vs. staff that was.

As far as NROTC goes... one of my fellow boat Det CDR’s actually finished BUD/S and then got picked up for an NROTC scholarship (so no trident). He told me it was iffy if he would get selected for SEAL and he was ready to prep for EOD.

That same guy told me that if my son wanted to go NSW, he’d be better off enlisting and then applying either through OCS or via NROTC as a badged SEAL.

In any case, good luck! I’ve known a bunch of good dudes who didnt make make it...and they’re still great dudes!

Thanks. Apologies, but what is SBT?

Ok, it’s been long enough that I feel like I can jump in. I was a SWO who did a 2nd tour at SBT-20. Here’s what I saw for SEAL officers:

-most would get a staff type job as their first tour, to prepare them for life O4 and beyond.
-the best deal was to be “3rd O” which basically meant you had no responsibility and could work on tactics, confident that you’d get two more platoons
-the pinacle of an officer’s career would be platoon commander; after that, it was much more admin headaches (with lots of PT).
-At SBT, our SEAL O4s and above would often get called away for stuff. Your guess is as good as mine as to how operational vs. staff that was.

As far as NROTC goes... one of my fellow boat Det CDR’s actually finished BUD/S and then got picked up for an NROTC scholarship (so no trident). He told me it was iffy if he would get selected for SEAL and he was ready to prep for EOD.

That same guy told me that if my son wanted to go NSW, he’d be better off enlisting and then applying either through OCS or via NROTC as a badged SEAL.

In any case, good luck! I’ve known a bunch of good dudes who didnt make make it...and they’re still great dudes!

Thanks. Apologies, but what is SBT?

Yes, I have read that if one really wants to be a SEAL, that enlisted may be better route than OCS or ROTC. Is the same true for USNA graduates?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Thanks. Apologies, but what is SBT?

Thanks. Apologies, but what is SBT?

Yes, I have read that if one really wants to be a SEAL, that enlisted may be better route than OCS or ROTC. Is the same true for USNA graduates?

If only there’s a place, maybe google, where you can find this answer about SBT...