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Funeral Protesters to pay $11 mil
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My take on the ruling wasn't that they can't say what they want, but they have to be held responsible for what the effect their speech has. As said earlier, wouldn't this fall under the notion of libel and/or slander?
The 1st Amendment is what their arguement was based upon. You cannot desecrate someone's giving their life for their country during a sacred ceremony for their family. The intent of the 1st Amendment is being skewed by these cultist clowns....they are not a church....they are not Baptist.....I am Baptist and can tell you that Christianity does not condone what they are actively doing. I think OJ needs to make a plea deal to save his a$$ by taking out these idiots....I could see that as fair....maybe.
This case was not about the first amendment. Since it is a civil case, it doesn't involve freedom of speech rights. It about these idiots being held accountable for the effects of their 'free speech.' I read in one article that Phelps posted a several page long letter/note on his website criticizing the parents of the fallen soldier for their divorce and how they raised their son. These nuts went pretty far this time, actually making slanderous remarks in a public forum, and I'm glad to see they are finally being held accountable for their actions.
Remember, you can say anything you want in our wonderful country. But, if someone can prove harm to themselves caused by your comments you can be held responsible.
In another note, I hope Phelps and his clan have to live out of cardboard boxes once everything is confiscated. Further poetic justice would involve confiscating the cardboard for its scrap value at a recycler to pay more of the indebtedness.
Remember, you can say anything you want in our wonderful country. But, if someone can prove harm to themselves caused by your comments you can be held responsible.
In another note, I hope Phelps and his clan have to live out of cardboard boxes once everything is confiscated. Further poetic justice would involve confiscating the cardboard for its scrap value at a recycler to pay more of the indebtedness.
I'm confused as to how these guys get the "right" to assembly and protest. I understand that it is technically a freedom, but in a lot of districts/localities in the country (like where I'm from) require these groups to get protesting licenses. They have to explain the whys and wherefores of their little gathering and stay within those bounds or face arrest. Do most other states simply not have this, or since they are a "church" are they exempt?
Ok, I'm going to attempt to put my degree to work here.
There is some Supreme Court history that backs up this ruling. You might remember it as giving us the 'Fighting Words' test. In Chaplinksy v. New Hampshire ('42), a case about Jehovah's Witness's who were calling police names and 'God damned racketeers' and 'fascists'. The ruling came down stating that face-to-face epithets, 'fighting words', were outside the realm of the protection of the First Amendment - words that 'by their very utterance inflict injury' and which 'are no essential part of any exposition of ideas'.
Its nice when you see these people get what they deserve AND it's backed up Constitutionally!
There is some Supreme Court history that backs up this ruling. You might remember it as giving us the 'Fighting Words' test. In Chaplinksy v. New Hampshire ('42), a case about Jehovah's Witness's who were calling police names and 'God damned racketeers' and 'fascists'. The ruling came down stating that face-to-face epithets, 'fighting words', were outside the realm of the protection of the First Amendment - words that 'by their very utterance inflict injury' and which 'are no essential part of any exposition of ideas'.
Its nice when you see these people get what they deserve AND it's backed up Constitutionally!
Their OFFICIAL answer to the question "why do you picket soldier's funerals? they died for your rights?
Answer according to WBC:
There are two problems with this question. First, it assumes that we need some cheap, tawdry soldier to protect us from anything. Get this straight -- God put us here to preach to you, and such devices as are needed will be provided by His hand. Second, it carries in its teeth such hypocrisy that it leaves any intelligent person speechless. You want to tout these so-called freedoms these spoiled brats are supposedly fighting to protect, but then you want to imprison, kill, and/or throw out of the country the only people who are exercising those rights with regularity and without compromise. What kind of hypocrite are you! You cry crocodile tears about how we are supposedly dishonoring their memories, when it is YOU who are dishonoring their memories by not welcoming us to preach outside these flag worshiping, America loving, war rallies!
Quoted Directly from godhatesamerica.com
--- Ya know how people say that the one thing you don't want to be in prison is a child molestor, because ever criminals think thats sick and perturbed and you'll end up dead or dying? Its only a guess, but I would imagine that members of this "church" wouldn't survive the first trip to the yard if they got real jail time.
Answer according to WBC:
There are two problems with this question. First, it assumes that we need some cheap, tawdry soldier to protect us from anything. Get this straight -- God put us here to preach to you, and such devices as are needed will be provided by His hand. Second, it carries in its teeth such hypocrisy that it leaves any intelligent person speechless. You want to tout these so-called freedoms these spoiled brats are supposedly fighting to protect, but then you want to imprison, kill, and/or throw out of the country the only people who are exercising those rights with regularity and without compromise. What kind of hypocrite are you! You cry crocodile tears about how we are supposedly dishonoring their memories, when it is YOU who are dishonoring their memories by not welcoming us to preach outside these flag worshiping, America loving, war rallies!
Quoted Directly from godhatesamerica.com
--- Ya know how people say that the one thing you don't want to be in prison is a child molestor, because ever criminals think thats sick and perturbed and you'll end up dead or dying? Its only a guess, but I would imagine that members of this "church" wouldn't survive the first trip to the yard if they got real jail time.
How bout the hand Bitch slap her blasphemous scraggly-haired pumpkin-head.
What I would give to watch a live feed from the pearly gates the day these blasphemers try and enter through the gates of St. Peter.... and theres a marine there standing midwatch 
Who was it that said, a zealot is someone who does what God would if only He knew the facts of the case?
I dig that Chesterson quote.
I dig that Chesterson quote.
He's got a bunch of good ones:
G.K. Chesterton said:
And my personal favorite . . .
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