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FY12 STA-21 Applicants

3rdtimer

3rdtimer

New Member
JHawkNROTC said:
From navymustangs.com:

The term "Mustang" is a relatively modern term, originating either just prior to, or during World War II. It is believed to be a Sea Service term, although other service officers are beginging to be described as Mustangs.

It literally refers to the mustang horse, which is a wild animal and therefore not a thoroughbred. A mustang, after being captured, can be tamed and saddle broken but it always has a bit of wild streak, and can periodically revert to its old ways unexpectedly and therefore the owner needs to keep an eye on it at all times.

By the same token, however, since a mustang was formerly a wild and free animal, it may very well be smarter, more capable and have a better survival instinct than thoroughbreds. The mustang can take care of itself when things get tough, thriving on rough treatment, while the thoroughbred, having been pampered its whole life, cannot.

You can easily see the parallel between horses and Naval Officers. The term "Mustang" is used in a complimentary sense most of the time.
Another accounting for the term "Mustang" is derived from the US Naval Academy where the term "Mustang" was initially used by USNA grads as an insult to the "lower class" of prior enlisted officers. They considered themselves as thoroughbreds and, meaning to insult, called our honored predecessors, "Mustangs" because we were less than pure. Like "Yankee" the slur stuck and soon became a badge of honor.

An LDO or CWO is an officer by appearance and in the minds of the "top brass," and an enlisted technician at heart. The creed of the LDO/CWO, upon receiving their commission is: "I did it the hard way... I earned it."
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I like that!!
 
pilothopeful85

pilothopeful85

Member
I have been stalking this thread for a good while, and must first say thank you for the helpful info. This site has really helped me keep on top of the things that your command does not know.
I have a quick question:
I am currently in "C" School in SD in route to an ultimate activity, and will likely be here when the results are released. If I am fortunate enough to get selected, does anyone have any experience with what happens to someone in my position(i.e. at an intermediate activity)? Will I stay here until I get new orders, or will I continue carrying out my current orders to my ultimate activity? You may ask why I detached from my releasing command and it's a long story, but in short, my orders were issued BEFORE my application submission, not "on or after" as the instruction reads, and so my command transferred me on those grounds. Any feedback would be appreciated.
 
JHawkNROTC

JHawkNROTC

FY12 & 13 Supply Corps Applicant
I just called the STA 21 rep at KU asking about the application process, and I go some disturbing news... He said that he thought that an acceptance letter from the college you wanted to go to was supposed to be apart of my package. I'm really hoping he doesn't know what he's talking about. Can I get some reassurance here?
 
timmyhoffa

timmyhoffa

FY-12 SWO/ED Selectee
JHawkNROTC said:
I just called the STA 21 rep at KU asking about the application process, and I go some disturbing news... He said that he thought that an acceptance letter from the college you wanted to go to was supposed to be apart of my package. I'm really hoping he doesn't know what he's talking about. Can I get some reassurance here?
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No, it is not required until after the results come out. Here's a link from the STA-21 website explaining the process for selects/alternates:
http://www.sta-21.navy.mil/docs/STA21_Letter_Enclosure.doc
 
DiverDan

DiverDan

US Navy Diver
JHawkNROTC said:
I just called the STA 21 rep at KU asking about the application process, and I go some disturbing news... He said that he thought that an acceptance letter from the college you wanted to go to was supposed to be apart of my package. I'm really hoping he doesn't know what he's talking about. Can I get some reassurance here?
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Lies and Slander!!

Seriously, that's not true. It helps to have them done early but there's no requirement for it in your package.
 
johnnyfive

johnnyfive

FY12 STA-21 Selectee (NFO), WINGED AVIATOR
JHawkNROTC said:
I just called the STA 21 rep at KU asking about the application process, and I go some disturbing news... He said that he thought that an acceptance letter from the college you wanted to go to was supposed to be apart of my package. I'm really hoping he doesn't know what he's talking about. Can I get some reassurance here?
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He was wrong. It's not a bad idea to have one in your package to show how serious your intentions are but it is not required. From the FAQs on the STA-21 website:

Q: When will I be issued orders to begin the program?
A: You will receive orders once you have submitted an acceptance letter, valid degree plan, HIV results, and been determined physically qualified by BUMED.

Also, there is nothing in the 1420.1b Ch. 8 or the STA-21 application instructions that say you should include an acceptance letter. Don't worry about it, I didn't submit one myself and I'm sure a lot of other people here didn't also.
 
ac2NASTY

ac2NASTY

AC -> OC -> O3E
pilot
JHawkNROTC said:
I just called the STA 21 rep at KU asking about the application process, and I go some disturbing news... He said that he thought that an acceptance letter from the college you wanted to go to was supposed to be apart of my package. I'm really hoping he doesn't know what he's talking about. Can I get some reassurance here?
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I'm an OC at KU and can assure you the LT you spoke to does not know how the application process works for STA-21. He's an academy grad, nuke, that is serving out his time at ROTC waiting on getting out of the Navy to make the big $$. Nothing against him as he's a great officer, just doesn't know much about the STA-21 program.

JHawkNROTC, if you have any specific questions about KU or the NROTC battalion feel free to PM me. I can give you my number and help with the checking in and finding a place to live (assuming you're selected).

To all others: This is the worst part of the process. Hang in there. Sorry to hear the numbers are down so much. I was lucky enough to be one of the groups that selected over 200. And yes, I was part of the group that had tons of useless posts.
 
jeeplovindad

jeeplovindad

FY13 Sta-21 Applicant EDO/SWO
johnnyfive said:
He was wrong. It's not a bad idea to have one in your package to show how serious your intentions are but it is not required. From the FAQs on the STA-21 website:

Q: When will I be issued orders to begin the program?
A: You will receive orders once you have submitted an acceptance letter, valid degree plan, HIV results, and been determined physically qualified by BUMED.

Also, there is nothing in the 1420.1b Ch. 8 or the STA-21 application instructions that say you should include an acceptance letter. Don't worry about it, I didn't submit one myself and I'm sure a lot of other people here didn't also.
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I think the only useful thing the degree plan does is dissolve any doubt that is created by a shotty academic history or lack of credits about your ability as an academic to finish your studies within the 36 month, or age, limit. Otherwise, besides showing that you took the time to get into a school, I don't think that it gives you anything that couldn't be deciphered out of your academic records.
 
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