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Getting your commission: The condensed version
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JSF_Dreamer
Busted Head
Just wanted to re-emphasize what you said about talking to an officer recruiter and not an enlisted recruiter about the commissioning programs. Today I went to the local enlisted recruiters office as I was driving by to see if he could put me in touch with the officer recruiter.
He asked if I was in college and I told him I was a math major with a year left which he said was great (woo hoo). Then he went on to ask about my GPA... I told him it was low due to my own immaturity during the first two years of college, but that I'm working my butt off now to bring it up. I have a 2.4 atm. He then went on to tell me that to go into any officer program I need ATLEAST a 3.5 GPA. Then he went on to talking about enlisting and programs like nuke and things like that. He said that I should come back to him when I am closer to graduating and then he'll help me contact the officer recruiter. I didn't mention that my dad was an enlisted recruiter or the fact that I have already researched the minimum GPA's for application. I was just surprised that he either actually believes you must have a 3.5 or would lie to my face like that in an effort to get me to enlist.
My dad was enlisted at 17 and worked his tail off to become an LDO from E-6. I respect enlisted guys, but they don't get to fly. I may not get to fly as it is, but it sure as hell won't be because I didn't try.
So, definitely, talk to an Officer recruiter.
He asked if I was in college and I told him I was a math major with a year left which he said was great (woo hoo). Then he went on to ask about my GPA... I told him it was low due to my own immaturity during the first two years of college, but that I'm working my butt off now to bring it up. I have a 2.4 atm. He then went on to tell me that to go into any officer program I need ATLEAST a 3.5 GPA. Then he went on to talking about enlisting and programs like nuke and things like that. He said that I should come back to him when I am closer to graduating and then he'll help me contact the officer recruiter. I didn't mention that my dad was an enlisted recruiter or the fact that I have already researched the minimum GPA's for application. I was just surprised that he either actually believes you must have a 3.5 or would lie to my face like that in an effort to get me to enlist.
My dad was enlisted at 17 and worked his tail off to become an LDO from E-6. I respect enlisted guys, but they don't get to fly. I may not get to fly as it is, but it sure as hell won't be because I didn't try.
So, definitely, talk to an Officer recruiter.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
When I was working OHARP in the summer, that 3.5 gpa number was closer to reality than you might think if your goal was pilot -- at least when it came to pilot. New fiscal year now, so the rules probably changed. Good luck on the rest of your classes and ko the astb.
I will concede that an enlisted person woking at an enlisted recruiting station usually has no idea what the officer application process entails (having never done one) or what the requirements are (having never needed to know). He just happened to be accurate by accident here.
I will concede that an enlisted person woking at an enlisted recruiting station usually has no idea what the officer application process entails (having never done one) or what the requirements are (having never needed to know). He just happened to be accurate by accident here.
JSF_Dreamer
Busted Head
Applicants will get a pilot slot without a 3.5 if they are competitive enough in other areas. What he said, though, was that to do ANY officer program, you need atleast a 3.5 or they won't accept you into OCS.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
When I was doing OHARP over the summer, all officer programs except nuke were essentially already full for the year, so if you didn't have a stellar package you were likely not going to be picked up.
I realize that the enlisted recruiter was making it sound like 3.5 gpa was a requirement when on paper it is not, and I also realize that it was, and still is, very possible to get accepted with less than a 3.5. I was just pointing out that he happened to be sort of correct by accident for the time period.
JSF_Dreamer
Busted Head
gotcha.
JSF_Dreamer
Busted Head
according to the OR I spoke to, minimum for BDCP is 2.7, but over 3.0 to actually be competitive. I know my ASTB scores are going to help me out, though. With my physics and mathematics background and a bit of studying should really help take some emphasis off my low GPA (which won't be so low when I actually apply anyways).
christaphurrr
Member
I applied for NROTC, but doesn't look like it's going to work out and I'm trying to figure out what to do. Would you guys say it's better to just go to college first and apply for OCS after I get my degree? (Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering.. looking for that pilot slot.)
You could always go to a college with a NROTC unit, join the unit without a scholarship, and work your butt off to get a two or three year scholarship. This was definitely a possibility when I was going through the college app process, but I'm sure more recent NROTC guys will chime in about how it works now.
As far as the engineering degree, I hope you're doing it because you actually like engineering, instead of doing it because you think you'll get a pilot spot. Take it from a history major, you don't need to be an engineer to get into Naval Aviation. I know education, general science, and english majors that are all pilots. Good luck though, this site will definitely help you find any info you need. Try using the search function for more specific info on the NROTC 2-3yr scholarships.
As far as the engineering degree, I hope you're doing it because you actually like engineering, instead of doing it because you think you'll get a pilot spot. Take it from a history major, you don't need to be an engineer to get into Naval Aviation. I know education, general science, and english majors that are all pilots. Good luck though, this site will definitely help you find any info you need. Try using the search function for more specific info on the NROTC 2-3yr scholarships.
christaphurrr
Member
No, haha. I love aviation and astronautics and that type of stuff. Call me a geek, but I have wanted to do it for a while and even take an aviation class at school.
About the College Program.. How do you become involved with it, how far in advance to you have to apply, etc? The schools I chose are all NROTC schools.. Purdue, Ohio State, Embry-Riddle, etc. I am really considering the College Program, but can't seem to find enough info. on it from people who actually know, instead of a web browser.
About the College Program.. How do you become involved with it, how far in advance to you have to apply, etc? The schools I chose are all NROTC schools.. Purdue, Ohio State, Embry-Riddle, etc. I am really considering the College Program, but can't seem to find enough info. on it from people who actually know, instead of a web browser.
There are years and years worth of questions and answers stored right here on AW. You have no questions that haven't been asked before so that's your homework assignment: check out the topics contained in the ROTC thread and use SEARCH!
eyes2theskies
Hungry for Flight
In the world of waivers I've heard just about anything is possible.
Except for an age waiver for USNA entry.
Can any credible sources verify?
Except for an age waiver for USNA entry.
Can any credible sources verify?
first of all great gouge on this site, I learned more here in two days of sneaking than I did in weeks of reading official websites. I can't find the code numbers for the officer programs that need to be filled out on the OCS application. if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great.
I got a 3.05 graduated with a history major I played college football with a varisty letter and I ran a pizza business for 1.5 years. I want to join the navy because i want to serve my country and give something back. if anyone would want to step up to the plate and read my motivational statement. I would be way stoked. I am thinking Intel, SWO (i know you guys are pilots and say it sucks out your soul but my grandpa did it so it might be in the blood) or Cryptography. I wear glasses so I am passing up flight. Also where can get a list a glossary of terms so I can sort out the Navy speak into Civ English
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thanks for all the great Gouge
I got a 3.05 graduated with a history major I played college football with a varisty letter and I ran a pizza business for 1.5 years. I want to join the navy because i want to serve my country and give something back. if anyone would want to step up to the plate and read my motivational statement. I would be way stoked. I am thinking Intel, SWO (i know you guys are pilots and say it sucks out your soul but my grandpa did it so it might be in the blood) or Cryptography. I wear glasses so I am passing up flight. Also where can get a list a glossary of terms so I can sort out the Navy speak into Civ English
. thanks for all the great Gouge
I went to Mass Maritime and got a direct commision into flight school from the merchant marine reserve.
since we don't have ROTC, the merchant marine reserve is considered DC.