There was a decent discussion of "global warming", "climate change" or whatever the new euphemism is, back in July: http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149643&highlight=climate
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Global Warming Conspiracy...?
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One interesting question is: will the evidence of crimes committed, such as intentionally making multiple transactions under $10,000 to avoid reporting them, be pursued by those with jurisdiction to enforce such laws? I guess, in spite of the illegal nature in which the information is acquired, its existence should now constitute probable cause for investigation.
However, it does not necessarily mean the end of life. The shift has occurred previously in Earth's past, and not all life went extinct then.
Technically, the geomagnetic shift is "overdue," and there is only theoretical speculation as to why it has not occurred yet, or why it occurs at all. The reversals are far from periodic events, although you can pretty much say with certainty that it will occur sometime in the future, and that it has been a relatively very long time since our last reversal.
However, it does not necessarily mean the end of life. The shift has occurred previously in Earth's past, and not all life went extinct then.
Huh? which email contained this?
The emails could be construed as academic misconduct, not an outright mustachioed paid conspiracy. This honestly isn't far out of the norm for academic competitiveness.
I'm not sure that the contents of hacked emails are something that the administrators would entertain on their board. Also, since the content of the 1000+ emails and 70+ documents are hard to come by, one can only go by what is posted elsewhere, in some manner of telephone-hearsay.
If you Google the following search term, you'll find all kinds of right-wing and other blogs talking about this specific issue:
Tatiana M. Dedkova important transfer advance money
For eight years Al Gore was Vice President of the US. This also made him the President of the Senate, the head of NASA and the National Science Foundation. It is pretty easy to have an influence on science matters when you are the one controlling the purse strings on most of the research grants. What these hacked or leaked e-mails show is these scientists altering data to achieve the results that they desire. It isn't coincidence that these results happen to be what the people who finance these studies want them to be. At the least these scientists may be guilty of fraud or theft by deception. Remember in Ghostbusters when Dan Akroyd's character says "You've never worked in the private sector. I have.....they expect results"?
My squadron had a pilot with a degree in Sociology. As a joke he sent in a grant request to the National Science Foundation requesting funding to study "The Mating Habits of the South Florida Beach Bunny". About four months later he gets a letter requesting information on where he wanted his $250,000 in funding to be deposited. I still say he screwed up when he sent a letter back cancelling his request. I say he should have taken the money and written the paper.
My squadron had a pilot with a degree in Sociology. As a joke he sent in a grant request to the National Science Foundation requesting funding to study "The Mating Habits of the South Florida Beach Bunny". About four months later he gets a letter requesting information on where he wanted his $250,000 in funding to be deposited. I still say he screwed up when he sent a letter back cancelling his request. I say he should have taken the money and written the paper.
^^ This.
As far as I undersand it, the Earth getting cooler this past decade is a matter of how you turn data sets into global temperature (I know almost nothing about how this is done). Many argue it is still getting warmer.
As far as H2O vs. CO2, not all greenouse gases were created equal. Water budget of the Earth trends with temperature more so than it causes it. This is also the reason you can get carbon credits for burning methane instead of releasing it directly into the air from say a landfill.
Regardless of cause, if Earth gets warmer and sea-levels rise, we lose access to lots of fresh water. I'd say there is generally some interest in that problem.
Overdue? 1500 years? Says who? It may be internal fluid dynamics of the core alone that causes the shift. What I'm more inclined to believe, is that large asteroid impacts or the actual slamming of subducted tectonic slabs into the core mantle boundary that causes flow reversal. Depending on who you ask these events are not exactly regular. What is fairly certain is that they will not kill everything on Earth.
You aren't the first person, scientists included, who has scoffed at the retarded-ness of the NSF. A lot of what they do is legit. Some of it... well...
Is there warming or not?
If there is, how bad is it?
How much has man contributed to the issue, and how much effect could man have on reversing it (if, in fact, there is warming).
Would the price of reversing it be worth it?
None of these questions have been answered yet, and because of the political (and thus financial) implications, they are not being honestly discussed.
If there is, how bad is it?
How much has man contributed to the issue, and how much effect could man have on reversing it (if, in fact, there is warming).
Would the price of reversing it be worth it?
None of these questions have been answered yet, and because of the political (and thus financial) implications, they are not being honestly discussed.
Final thought on subject: Someone needs to get to the airport at Copenhagen & take a photo of all the 747s, DC-10s, A340/330s etc. that will be parked there by heads of state attending the conference. That would graphically depict the hypocrisy of this whole BS process. If those assholes aren't willing to take public transportation to get to Copenhagen, they shouldn't be allowed to attend.
I remember seeing a thing where they measured sunlight after 9/11 and found that without planes the temperature and sun intensity increased significantly.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3310_sun.html
However, I'm not sure how rigorous any study of a period of a few days can really be.
Also, human beings have survived reversals of the magnetic field multiple times. I'm not too worried about it.