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Gun-control groups fear top activist was NRA spy
- Thread starter A4sForever
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The ends justify the means. Got it. :icon_roll
Geesh....Man this thread has really touched a nerve with you.... My comment was in no way, shape, or form directed at you, Flasher!
Just firing for effect.
The Aussie government thinks they did:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_5_32/ai_65651783
That was only after a short search. I am sure I can find plenty 'fun facts' on the anti-gun side too.
Yes, the military kills people to insure our freedom... the NRA is accused of spying... In this case I'd say yes.
Now if the NRA started killing anti-gun rights activists then I might lose some sleep
Since when has the NRA had power delegated to it from the Federal government or any other duly elected governmental body? Reread Thomas Hobbes's Leviathan, John Locke's Second Treatise on Government, John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty," and the Federalist Papers. I am as pro-gun as they get, but to ascribe Constitutional authority to the NRA or suggest granting it is to engage in right-wing wanking of the highest order. Let's let PETA onboard to protect the Constitutional rights of vegans, then.But they both exist to protect the constitution and by proxy our freedom. My analogy succeeds!
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P.S. ... I'm still waiting to hear some of those dastardly "lies" fomented by the NRA from any of you nattering nabobs of negativism ... Anyone?? .... Anyone??? ... Anyone home??? Hello???
Please spare us and don't try to impress by quoting or linking to left-wing, gun control websites ... they have already discredited themselves time and time again as being duplicitous bastards on the issue at hand.
The NRA may not be "perfect" ... but then who is??
Maybe I just missed it, but where has it been proven that the NRA had any undercover agent working for them? Like it was said before, there are associations between the NRA and this lady, but nothing has yet to come out positively linking the NRA to any inside spying on them. Simply having her on some sort of retainer isn't indication of any type of wrongdoing.
The simple fact that the NRA chose not to respond to the question doesn't make them guilty of anything. That's a fact. Spin it however, someone doesn't have to respond if they choose not to.
If they did spy, shame on them. As was also mentioned previously, this topic gets people worked into a tizzy in a heartbeat, so doing something underhanded like this only removes any semblance of an ethical high-ground that, which in an argument like this, is a strong position to hold.
The simple fact that the NRA chose not to respond to the question doesn't make them guilty of anything. That's a fact. Spin it however, someone doesn't have to respond if they choose not to.
If they did spy, shame on them. As was also mentioned previously, this topic gets people worked into a tizzy in a heartbeat, so doing something underhanded like this only removes any semblance of an ethical high-ground that, which in an argument like this, is a strong position to hold.
Just firing for effect.
The Aussie government thinks they did:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_5_32/ai_65651783
That was only after a short search. I am sure I can find plenty 'fun facts' on the anti-gun side too.
I read the link....not sure where/how they can say the numbers went down...although the rate may have gone down. I will be holding my breath waiting for you to post those fun facts about the anti side
I was never trying to ascribe constitutional authority to the NRA all I was relating was the similarity in what thier objectives are. You may disagree but a very good argument can be made that they are both institutions that protect freedom albeit in different ways. Freedom must be jealously guarded, and it sometimes requires people to steal tea and dump it in the harbor, regardless of thier lack of government authority to do so.
There are rare cases where the ends justify the means.
So to the NRA I say keep on stealing the tea, keep on.
There are rare cases where the ends justify the means.
So to the NRA I say keep on stealing the tea, keep on.
Thanks for the good laugh this morning - but I always thought that the second half of that was funnier: the "hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history".
Political speech-making has gone downhill these days.
(History note: Vice-President Agnew first said it, but it was written by William Safire - who went on to be an actual conservative writing for the NY Times after Watergate - hard to believe these days).