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Hard Power and Soft Power

Griz882

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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JTS11 said:
You can't be seriously surely...don't call me...something

A screeching halt?
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Sure. The man has a long history of flip-flopping when he encounters significant push back. He went from calling NATO to saying it should be honored (while paying more). He also flipped on the ACA, China, Janet Yellen, and even his buddy Kim in NK.
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
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JTS11 said:
Not sure he cares. He's a lame duck at this point, and prob gives 2 shits.
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Don’t be so sure. Mark my words, there will be an effort to give Trump a 3rd term, regardless of his health and mental status. Probably from the a compliant legislative within the next two years. It’s been brought up before, and they have already proven they don’t care about the Constitution.

I hope I’m wrong about that.
 
robav8r

robav8r

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sevenhelmet said:
Don’t be so sure. Mark my words, there will be an effort to give Trump a 3rd term, regardless of his health and mental status. Probably from the a compliant legislative within the next two years. It’s been brought up before, and they have already proven they don’t care about the Constitution.

I hope I’m wrong about that.
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😳 😳😳
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

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Spekkio said:
I'm aware of how the budgeting process works. You don't need to have an intricate knowledge of that process to understand that allocating $39B toward USAID in an appropriations bill is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

What I sought to do in my post is demonstrate that while $39B is an inconsequential amount of money to the federal government as a percentage of outlays, it can translate into a consequential amount of money for a working class American. If the US is going to be in the business of giving $39B in hand-outs, why are we giving it to people overseas when we can't fund our own government and/or take care of our own people? That is the principle of the question and "well, it's only 0.58% of our budget" not only doesn't answer the mail, it's completely tone deaf.


It really has negligible impact to our society. Like, maybe 0.58% of people at most are impacted by it. As for the budget numbers... I guess a growing deficit from 2024 is reason to slash USAID, no?
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If those 0.58% of people are growing a significant portion of our food, it impacts all of us.

That’s the problem with big government- it becomes inextricably linked to everything.
 
Spekkio

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
sevenhelmet said:
Don’t be so sure. Mark my words, there will be an effort to give Trump a 3rd term, regardless of his health and mental status. Probably from the a compliant legislative within the next two years. It’s been brought up before, and they have already proven they don’t care about the Constitution.

I hope I’m wrong about that.
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The states administer elections. There may be a few outliers, but I don't see a path where enough states ignore the 22nd amendment and put him on the ballot to get enough electoral college votes to win, and no judge will make a standing ruling to force them to do so.

If anything, such a plan would backfire, split the Republican vote, and guarantee a Democrat administration in 2028.
 
Randy Daytona

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
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sevenhelmet said:
Don’t be so sure. Mark my words, there will be an effort to give Trump a 3rd term, regardless of his health and mental status. Probably from the a compliant legislative within the next two years. It’s been brought up before, and they have already proven they don’t care about the Constitution.

I hope I’m wrong about that.
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22nd Amendment. Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The operative word is "Elected". There is nothing to prevent Vance from running as President with Trump as Vice President, then Vance resigning on Day 1. And no, the 12th Amendment also involves the word "Elected". Probable? No. Possible, Yes.
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
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Spekkio said:
The states administer elections. There may be a few outliers, but I don't see a path where enough states ignore the 22nd amendment and put him on the ballot to get enough electoral college votes to win, and no judge will make a standing ruling to force them to do so.

If anything, such a plan would backfire, split the Republican vote, and guarantee a Democrat administration in 2028.
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I hope you’re right about that- I’m not convinced this administration is level-headed enough not to try.
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

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Randy Daytona said:
22nd Amendment. Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

The operative word is "Elected". There is nothing to prevent Vance from running as President with Trump as Vice President, then Vance resigning on Day 1. And no, the 12th Amendment also involves the word "Elected". Probable? No. Possible, Yes.
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Exactly the kind of fuck-fuck games this kind of administration gets off on.
 
JTS11

JTS11

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Spekkio said:
The states administer elections. There may be a few outliers, but I don't see a path where enough states ignore the 22nd amendment and put him on the ballot to get enough electoral college votes to win, and no judge will make a standing ruling to force them to do so.

If anything, such a plan would backfire, split the Republican vote, and guarantee a Democrat administration in 2028.
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The sovereign AW citizen has spoken..you may be right, I dunno.
 
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