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Hornet down in VA Beach

Fog said:
In a perfect world, but the Norfolk/Va Beach area has been the primary home to the Atlantic Fleet since well before WWII. The synergy of having the air assets there w/ the ships would be lost if the air wings all moved to Cecil. JMHO.
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None of that "synergy" on the West coast and it works fine. Closing Cecil was a bonehead move.
 
"The Brick" said:
They have said that this would happen at that airfield, and it will happen again until they solve the problem of the population around the airfield or close it and move it somewhere else...
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They (the anti-Oceana element), have been hounding the Navy for years, to close/relocate the NAS. They indeed, predicted that this, and more similar accidents would occur. No matter that the NAS was there first, they zoned the surrounding property for heavy-duty housing development, they developed and no reversing that.:rolleyes:

Sooner or later (several more similar or worse accidents will occur?). When the "bough breaks", and someone has to relocate, you can be sure it won't be the home/apartment/business owners!

*NAS Moffett/NAS Alameda underwent samo samo pain as Oceana is now, and today they are nearly abandoned shells of once great Naval Air Stations.:(
BzB
 
Don't want to get into what ifs and monday morning quarterbacking. But having looked at some of the news, not the actual report yet, I am left wondering if there are engine instruments in the back seat of the Delta bird. I am guessing there is. Will someone please confirm? Separately, again, just the facts, has a classic bug ever been FODed by a blown tire? Debate/comments not necessary. Just rolling it around in my head.
 
C420sailor said:
Yes, D models have an IFEI (sp?) in the rear.
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Yeah there is almost nothing else, aside from the absurd e-brake handle which can be accidentally actuated by the most casual of backseaters..................but other than that, there is literally nothing to play with in the back. You could probably host a gymnastics show from back there and still not scare anyone.
 
Perhaps he's speaking from experience. What kind of "gymnastics" are you referring to? Never mind, I don't want to know.

BTW, my post timer says 01:38 for you. I'm guessing 04:38 East Coast? You're a fanatic!
 
pilot_man said:
This post has me laughing my ass off.
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You tell me where you'd rather fly from & pull liberty: (a) Oceana/Va Beach or the piney woods of Cecil Field, or (b) Miramar/San Diego/LaJolla or NAS Lemoore & drinking in pastures? Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done. Doing the same with Oceana would be a DS move of the same magnitude. JMHO, mind you. Guess I'm too old to appreciate the virtues of having nothing to do when you're not flying.
 
Fog said:
You tell me where you'd rather fly from & pull liberty: (a) Oceana/Va Beach or the piney woods of Cecil Field, or (b) Miramar/San Diego/LaJolla or NAS Lemoore & drinking in pastures? Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done. Doing the same with Oceana would be a DS move of the same magnitude. JMHO, mind you. Guess I'm too old to appreciate the virtues of having nothing to do when you're not flying.
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As a guy that has been lucky enough to fly jets from both Miramar and Oceana, I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above.
 
Fog said:
You tell me where you'd rather fly from & pull liberty: (a) Oceana/Va Beach or the piney woods of Cecil Field, or (b) Miramar/San Diego/LaJolla or NAS Lemoore & drinking in pastures? Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done. Doing the same with Oceana would be a DS move of the same magnitude. JMHO, mind you. Guess I'm too old to appreciate the virtues of having nothing to do when you're not flying.
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My wife and I love it in Hampton Roads, and are currently planning to retire here...

Those who talk shit haven't been stationed here long enough...

And all you spoiled Navy fags have never had to spend time in Jacksonville, NC or New Bern, NC...
 
sevenhelmet said:
Perhaps he's speaking from experience. What kind of "gymnastics" are you referring to? Never mind, I don't want to know.

BTW, my post timer says 01:38 for you. I'm guessing 04:38 East Coast? You're a fanatic!
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I'm traveling. All bets are off. :D
 
Fog said:
....Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done. ...
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Been everywhere, done everything, but....
Worth repeating:
"Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done."
"Giving away Miramar - a national asset - to Marine Air was the dumbest peace-time thing the Navy has ever done."

But as a retiree, Marine or Navy, I still get to use their gym, exchange, gas station pharmacy, et. al. just 10 minutes away!​
 
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