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red_stang65

Well-Known Member
pilot
Yikes and yikes again!

So what happened with the contract? The suspense!

Did we keep buying the part at the higher price? Did a competitor offer a new solution for less? Was there some settlement that allowed the price to be brought back down? Or was the Congressman in the manufacturer’s district able to get the Appropriations bill increased to just the right amount?
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
So what happened with the contract? The suspense!

Did we keep buying the part at the higher price? Did a competitor offer a new solution for less? Was there some settlement that allowed the price to be brought back down? Or was the Congressman in the manufacturer’s district able to get the Appropriations bill increased to just the right amount?
We’ll have to wait until tonight.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
So what happened with the contract? The suspense!

Did we keep buying the part at the higher price? Did a competitor offer a new solution for less? Was there some settlement that allowed the price to be brought back down? Or was the Congressman in the manufacturer’s district able to get the Appropriations bill increased to just the right amount?
I was wrong…it aired last weekend! Put simply, we are being screwed by the industry. As the guy put it (roughly) “they tell us they are gouging us and they look you in the eye and say we’ll keep doing it.” But the “good” news is we won’t need as many enlisted guys as it appears things like the F-35 have proprietary tech that only corporate can work on!

BLUF…it is a disturbing report.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
I saw the panel at AUSA and it is pretty sweet. If it works it could make a lot of the IFR stuff extremely easy.
 

Ventus

Weather Guesser
pilot
You could probably play Sonic Adventures 2 on that, looking at the graphics.

In all seriousness, is anyone worried that this is going to be in a position to take small arms fire and if one round goes through the display, all of your instruments are fucked compared to having individual screens and independent backup analog ones?
 

ea6bflyr

Working Class Bum
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Super Moderator
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You could probably play Sonic Adventures 2 on that, looking at the graphics.

In all seriousness, is anyone worried that this is going to be in a position to take small arms fire and if one round goes through the display, all of your instruments are fucked compared to having individual screens and independent backup analog ones?
Or survive lighting strike.

Maybe a Helmet Mounted Cuing System? Or is that just for Fighter Attack Guys? ??‍♂️
 

Hotdogs

I don’t care if I hurt your feelings
pilot
In all seriousness, is anyone worried that this is going to be in a position to take small arms fire and if one round goes through the display, all of your instruments are fucked compared to having individual screens and independent backup analog ones?

If you’re planning a conventional air assault into a zone that will take small arms fire then you’re probably fucked up. This isn’t Vietnam, there are rules.
 

Roger_Waveoff

DFP 1: Why did we take off late?
pilot
Or survive lighting strike.

Maybe a Helmet Mounted Cuing System? Or is that just for Fighter Attack Guys? ??‍♂️
We do have an HMD in the V-22, both a daytime monocle that mounts directly to the NVG mount assembly and a night monocle that goes on the front of either the left or right NVG tube. Albeit with some minor differences, it serves as either a PFD or Hover page repeater.
 

Random8145

Registered User
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If you’re planning a conventional air assault into a zone that will take small arms fire then you’re probably fucked up. This isn’t Vietnam, there are rules.
Sometimes military equipment ends up having to be used in roles it wasn't originally designed for because the assumption that it would never be put into such conditions was wrong. For example, the Abrams battle tank lacking the ability to fire the machine gun from inside of the tank, because it was assumed the tank would never end up in such a situation, then Iraq.

There was also that instance a couple of decades ago where a group of Apache helicopters got shot up heavily because someone messed up somewhere.

And of course also the "Blackhawk Down" disaster.
 
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Random8145

Registered User
Contributor
I was wrong…it aired last weekend! Put simply, we are being screwed by the industry. As the guy put it (roughly) “they tell us they are gouging us and they look you in the eye and say we’ll keep doing it.” But the “good” news is we won’t need as many enlisted guys as it appears things like the F-35 have proprietary tech that only corporate can work on!

BLUF…it is a disturbing report.
It's a slight tangent, but I've read SpaceX has encountered this with hundreds of subcontractors/suppliers, and as a result, has taken to designing a lot of its own components in-house, apparently often better and cheaper than the subcontractors' offering (s).
 

Hotdogs

I don’t care if I hurt your feelings
pilot
Sometimes military equipment ends up having to be used in roles it wasn't originally designed for because the assumption that it would never be put into such conditions was wrong. For example, the Abrams battle tank lacking the ability to fire the machine gun from inside of the tank, because it was assumed the tank would never end up in such a situation, then Iraq.

There was also that instance a couple of decades ago where a group of Apache helicopters got shot up heavily because someone messed up somewhere.

And of course also the "Blackhawk Down" disaster.

Yeah I don’t know anything about those mission sets.
 
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