How much running at OCS?

[navyjeff94]

Those are some mighty motivational words. I hope that we keep this in mind as we begin our own personal journeys.

From the words of one of my favorite movies, Kiss of Death, "Whatever doesn't kill you, makes you stronger".

 

[kiowaguy]

Opinions

I think we are seeing two sides of the coins here. You all have good points. I don't neccesairly disagree with your points. I just think calling people "soft" or that the system has gotten "soft" is wrong. Maybe different, but not soft. You guys gave great opinions and I actually agree with it 95%, but there are obviously a group of people with a ton of stars, leaf's and bars who have determined the change is neccesary. Sorry, but when you call it soft, you disrespect those who are going through it.

 

[SemperGumbi]

Or a Captain commanding a cruiser. Yeah, you'll last a long time in that discussion.

Interesting….
As for the Master chief mentioned in the post above the one quoted, the same will go for him;

There is more than walking up to a guy/gal and saying, “Hey, you are a fat body. You aren’t a leader.”

Heck, I don’t know of many LCpls that would say that to a nasty 01. But they are thinking it. I know I do.

Every once in a while I see a Marine Colonel who is WAY beyond the hight/weight standards. I think to myself how glad I am they aren’t in my chain of command. How am I going to take someone seriously who doesn’t lead by example? I mean seriously? Someone who is going to see combat needs to be reasonably fit.

Granted, that captain of Master Chief probably won’t be on the front lines hooking and jabbing, but someone under them will. Frankly I find it sad that some can’t take the time and won’t extend the effort to at least not be FAT. I mean, why even have weight or appearance standards for any non-combat MOS?

I hope my touch or sarcasm doesn’t come off as being incendiary. That honestly isn’t my intention at all.

My bottom line here is this: A good leader will hold himself as high if not higher than those he leads. Allowing yourself to get a little out of shape because you don’t HAVE to be in peak physical shape seems poor to me.

And when I see someone, senior or junior, enlisted or officer, who looks like they aren’t taking care of themselves it makes me wonder about them.

 

[35_NSS]

I have heard it varies on your DI but on avearge how much running a day do you do at OCS?

the only running you do at Navy ocs is down the block to the chow hall, so don't worry at all, just be prepared to eat when you show up... No Excuses!!

 

[astrov99]

Well, the running probably got "softened" due to shin splint factors, people running through pain and doing serious damage to themselves. I remember a candidate who shattered his hip on his out PFA. He was only like 30 yards from the finish line too and was going to get a good time. That's what happens when you run on a stress fracture...eventually it will just break.

The reason they probably changed it is because it didn't make much financial/logistic sense. Too many good candidates were probably getting hurt and costing the Navy both time and money. No CO likes a high medical attrition rate, not even in BUDS.

There's one thing when you can't hack it and quit, but it's another thing entirely when you get seriously injured. The goal of "hard" training is to weed out the quitters and weak minded, not to injure people who truly are giving it their all.