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Huntington Beach Helicopter Crash

PhrogPhlyer said:
In the up close video, during the 7 sec. frames, they clearly shows the tail rotor departing the aircraft.
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But only after the aircraft started spinning. I'm thinking the issue may have been upstream, even if only a little bit.
Swanee said:
So for the non-helo folks in the room, what are we looking at?
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What Chuck keeps getting at is the orientation of the collective "handle." Typically the grip portion of a collective (thing that gives you power and makes you go up and down vertically) is oriented longitudinally. The 222 has the grip positioned laterally, just like an airplane's throttles.

Seawolf42 said:
With all the advanced sim training these days
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That assumes there is training. Like was said, it costs money and time, and not required.
 
Seawolf42 said:
That is probably a major issue, even the military is getting away from full autos.
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That is a shame. I would do at least one full auto during every flight if able. It just became something you did, not something to be concerned about. We'd place bets on doing autos from the 180 abeam the runway, keeping the needles split all the way to the landing.
I put this into the same category as spins in a FW. That used to be just something you did, again, not something to be concerned about.
 
PhrogPhlyer said:
That is a shame. I would do at least one full auto during every flight if able. It just became something you did, not something to be concerned about. We'd place bets on doing autos from the 180 abeam the runway, keeping the needles split all the way to the landing.
I put this into the same category as spins in a FW. That used to be just something you did, again, not something to be concerned about.
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Interesting.

Regarding spin training: in my glider training my instructors would have me (and all of their other students) recover from a spin on a specific heading (N,S,E,W). At first it was daunting. But after a couple of flights you got used to that specific flight environment, so you had the brain bites and the SA to put it all together, and it became a fun little game.

It was also practical- if you found yourself in a gaggle in a thermal, and you fudged it up and got yourself into a spin, you didn't recover immediately. You recover once you're below the lowest airplane in the gaggle and headed towards your intended landing point- just in case you're below the thermal or can't find the lift again.
 
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