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IFS in Pensacola

redmidgrl

livin' the dream
Contributor
This is what I found out from school:

IFS is 25 hours and a solo for SNA's and 13.5 hours for SNFO's. That's engine-time. There's also 40 hours of ground school.

To waive IFS, you need to show "sufficient" engiine-time from your log book. Apparently, they also used to do accelerated primary... is that still going on?

Thanks.
Red
 

TheBubba

I Can Has Leadership!
None
To elaborate on what red said:

If you have your PPL or have gotten to at least the point in the syllabus where you've soloed, no IFS for you.

socaldude, all SNA's and SNFO's do IFS. You'll check into API and they'll set you up for IFS prior to starting API.
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
Any one know just how many hours you need so IFS doesn't apply to you?

Yeah...+1 on what Bubba said...When I got to API, they made me show my logbook and they copied my solo endorsement..not the PPL. I guess that is what they go off of.

<edit> Oh...and no accelerated primary either. Several people in my class have many more hours than I do...(~200hours). In fact, one of my buddies is well over 1000 hours and is a CFI and didn't get accelerated. This may vary some from squadron to squadron, or wing to wing, but I have not heard of anyone getting accelerated. It seems like a paper tiger program...
 
I've got a question. Does one get to fill out a wish list of the order of prefered IFS schools in the Pensacola area? It would really suck to have a 1.5 hour commute everyday. Also where are the desiginated IFS spots in the Pensacola area? I would assume there is one at the Pensacola regional airport, Mobile, and Ft. Walton.
 

Chubby

Active Member
I have a buddy who was accelerated through RI's because he had his cloud card, so it can happen. Of course that was in Whiting, so maybe it varies by wing or squadron.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
<edit> Oh...and no accelerated primary either. Several people in my class have many more hours than I do...(~200hours). In fact, one of my buddies is well over 1000 hours and is a CFI and didn't get accelerated. This may vary some from squadron to squadron, or wing to wing, but I have not heard of anyone getting accelerated. It seems like a paper tiger program...

SNAs are accelerated all the time in my squadron. It may be different from squadron to squadron, but if a stud has significant flying time (ie 1000+) or ratings, he or she will be accelerated. The program will be tailored to fit the student and their experience.
 

Tom

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
E6B, from your experience, what is an accelerated course like for SNA? Do they have a tendency to drift towards a certain pipeline? How long does it take them on average to finish? Do they tend to do well?

I am guessing that I will go that route with all my FAA crap and am just curious as to what is going on down there.
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
FWIW, I was accelerated.

I had ~1000 total time, 60 Fixed wing, rest helos. I "skipped" the first 4 fams (you know, the freebie ones) and 2-3 flights in BIs. I did all of RIs, as I had no cloud card. (not uncommon in the crop dusting world. No need)

Did all of PA & FORM.

Ended up with a 67 NSS. Selected E2s. This is when the pipeline was jacked, and they sent me to Helos, without flying in the Multi VTs.

Went to South Whiting (aka South Park) and flew the full helo sylabus (no advanced studs there, unless you were a winged army dude) but "doubled up" flights here and there. FAM 2/3 and 4/5 were combined, etc. Also was allowed to double pump more than most students.

Went thru in 4 months from FAM-1 to wings.
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
E6B, from your experience, what is an accelerated course like for SNA? Do they have a tendency to drift towards a certain pipeline? How long does it take them on average to finish? Do they tend to do well?

I am guessing that I will go that route with all my FAA crap and am just curious as to what is going on down there.

See Master's post, pretty typical for a someone who flew primarily VFR. Experienced IFR guys may skip a few RIs. The tendency is to drift toward whatever pipeline they want, mainly jets, due to most (not all) of them getting a fairly high NSS.
Accelerated is NOT an easy route to go, especially if you are highly experienced due to having to go back to square one and learn the Navy way. The big thing that Accel guys have going for them is monkey skills and headwork, which is hard to learn without experience.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
pilot
None
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Just curious . . . I'm not noticing Eglin being discussed as an approved IFS school. Heard some rumors that Big Navy no longer needed their services. True?
 

Junior

Registered User
pilot
I would not suggest pushing the issue for being accelerated. There is a big difference between having a PPL and about 60 hours (not knowing jack) and having your commercial ticket / CFI. I knew some guys who really pushed for acceleration with only a PPL and did not understand it at all. Just chill and enjoy the flights.
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
SNAs are accelerated all the time in my squadron. It may be different from squadron to squadron, but if a stud has significant flying time (ie 1000+) or ratings, he or she will be accelerated. The program will be tailored to fit the student and their experience.

Rog...don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to imply that I knew anything about anywhere else...or even here really...just reporting what I saw.
 
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