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Increase in aviation quota for next year.

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War Hoover NFO.
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I just got back from talking to the OPO in the NRD I used to support. There are huge increases coming for aviation OCS quotas next year. Both pilot and NFO will nearly double. As I recall pilots will go from 133 to 250 and NFOs from 120 to 200. If application numbers and quality remain constant then selection rates could climb to 70+%. Remember, these numbers will start to come into play later this summer. That is because the FY your quota comes from is determined by when you are commissioned. So a FY09 NFO will go to OCS sometime in July to graduate after 01OCT08. If you are a non select over the summer on a FY08 quota, make sure your reapply or request reconsideration. You may get lucky on a FY09 quota. Good luck to all!!
 

navy_or_bust

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I am up for the board this month under BDCP. Could this impact me in any way if my OCS date would be around May 2010?
 

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War Hoover NFO.
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I am up for the board this month under BDCP. Could this impact me in any way if my OCS date would be around May 2010?
Since my post indicated these were '09 OCS numbers, NO!! Lets see I said OCS and I said FY09. You said BDCP and FY'10. :confused: Just to educate a bit though, BDCP numbers are goaled separately from straight OCS guys. The BDCP people essentially get a jump on the future goals of the Navy before CNRC actually gets to setting the goals for that year. If you are before the board in April '08 then you are a FY 08 BDCP quota. You will fill a pilot/NFO quota in FY 10 for an as yet to be determined fiscal year goal.
 

navy_or_bust

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I guess I was wondering if it would impact me a few years out because it sounds like they are filling a shortage. If this is the case then in following years they might drop the numbers due to the increased number of junior officers. I know that it will have no direct impact because they are completely different fiscal years but was wondering about possibly more indirect impacts. Just throwing it out there, but I will know this week anyway so not too much I can do about it anyway. Thanks.
 

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War Hoover NFO.
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I guess I was wondering if it would impact me a few years out because it sounds like they are filling a shortage. If this is the case then in following years they might drop the numbers due to the increased number of junior officers. I know that it will have no direct impact because they are completely different fiscal years but was wondering about possibly more indirect impacts. Just throwing it out there, but I will know this week anyway so not too much I can do about it anyway. Thanks.
You are thinking to hard. If you get selected, the job is yours, regardless of how the goaling may change. If you are worried about retention, promotion rates, career progression, etc, relax. To begin with there are way too many variables you can't know about now, let alone the fact that there are variables the Navy manpower planners can not know. If I had to bet I'd say it will not impact you as a junior officer in the least. OCS numbers go up and down all the time and no one feels the effects in the fleet.
 
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bugat

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quick, possibly highly ignorant question: are the quotas of 250 and 200 for the entire year or for each month's selection board?

currently a civilian, i can't estimate how many pilots the navy needs each year.
 

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War Hoover NFO.
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quick, possibly highly ignorant question: are the quotas of 250 and 200 for the entire year or for each month's selection board?

currently a civilian, i can't estimate how many pilots the navy needs each year.
Those are for the entire year, nationwide. That is why it is so competitive. Back when I first went to active duty recruiting in the mid '80's (looking down the barrel at the Soviets and Reagan military build up well underway) the goal for pilot was 35 and NFO 25, in my NRD alone . Today your NRD will probably only put in 6-10 pilots a year and 5 or 6 NFOs, depending on it's market.
 

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War Hoover NFO.
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That is why it is so competitive. quote]

How competitive? If 133 are selected for 2008, my uneducated guess would be about 400 applied, maybe..?
I really don't know how many apps go before the board these days. I am pretty sure it is more then 400. My reference to competitiveness is based on the types of people and their profiles that do get accepted. The grades, degrees, test scores, employment experiences, athletics, extra curricular activities, outstanding medical status and lack of law enforcement issues, that make up the typical successful candidate is not easily found in the average guy walking a college campus.
 

LazersGoPEWPEW

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He makes a good point above. There aren't a whole lot of guys walking around college who haven nixed on one of the above things whether it be having a worthless degree or a couple of traffic tickets. Nobody is perfect.
 
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