Initial Flight Gear Issue

[Brett327]

You have to sign out your own gear? WTF?

 

[Pags]

Or just ignore them and keep doing the aviator thing.

 

[Gatordev]

You have to sign out your own gear? WTF?

You're actually supposed to be doing it, too. Enforcement may be a different matter.

I've never seen an MPA or AMI where this wasn't a concern (and sometimes a hit).

 

[Brett327]

You're actually supposed to be doing it, too. Enforcement may be a different matter.

I've never seen an MPA or AMI where this wasn't a concern (and sometimes a hit).

Interesting, as I’ve never heard of such a thing, even during a recent AMI. Must be part of the RW harassment package.

 

[Flash]

You're actually supposed to be doing it, too. Enforcement may be a different matter.

I've never seen an MPA or AMI where this wasn't a concern (and sometimes a hit).

Interesting, as I’ve never heard of such a thing, even during a recent AMI. Must be part of the RW harassment package.

Definitely not a thing in either one of my squadrons.

 

[HAL Pilot]

Not a thing 20 years ago in VP. But it was a different VP back then, just starting to embrace the VPenis suckfest of today. The demise of west coast VP and VP-31 was the catalyst.

 

[Gatordev]

Interesting, as I’ve never heard of such a thing, even during a recent AMI. Must be part of the RW harassment package.

It wouldn't be the first time that it seems like jet squadrons get a different inspection than helo guys, at least on the small things.

 

[Fallonflyr]

Still use the same pair of gold frame 52mm I am wearing in the 30 year ago picture on my avatar. (On the veranda in Cubi) Just the other day I had a hipster in Philly ask me where to “get some of those awesome sunglasses bro?”

 

[Pags]

Still use the same pair of gold frame 52mm I am wearing in the 30 year ago picture on my avatar. (On the veranda in Cubi) Just the other day I had a hipster in Philly ask me where to “get some of those awesome sunglasses bro?”

Do you still use the same pair of short shorts? ?

 

[Treetop Flyer]

Do you still use the same pair of short shorts? ?

I believe those are just called “shorts”

 

[wink]

Still use the same pair of gold frame 52mm I am wearing in the 30 year ago picture on my avatar. (On the veranda in Cubi) Just the other day I had a hipster in Philly ask me where to “get some of those awesome sunglasses bro?”

Gave 3 pair, unused issue, to my 23 yo son. He gets compliments all the time. Did some research and it appears some A list celebrities wear them now. Never knew how cool I was.

 

[CommodoreMid]

I have found that to immediately disarm a Chief can be done in one of two ways:

1. Immediately agree with everything they say and praise them. Case in point: getting off the boat after an extended underway, I had on my sea-bag and a back pack with (the horror!) a yellow stripe on one shoulder while holding my helmet bag in the other hand. (Trying to get off the boat in one swoop and not have to get back on!) Across half the hangar bay a Chief comes running up, out of breath, yelling: "L-T! Hey, L-T! Excuse me, LIEUTENANT!" I look around see a Chief chomping at the bit: "Sir, you know the regulation states that you can't wear a backpack any other color than black!" I smile largely instead of getting frustrated and acting like I'm caught: "Chief! You're right, my gosh, I can't believe I made that mistake, let me adjust it! Have a great day!" Adjusts to the elbow instead of shoulder, continues walking.. "Oh, uh, ok sir, yeah, have a good day."

2. Know the EXACT rule they claim to be quoting, 2 stories here:
Story 1: CMC comes up to me, tells me I can't have a dip in my cover, the regulation states so. I stated whatever it said (too late to actually look it up) something to the effect of: "Nah, CMC, it actually states that the line going front to back must be straight. Mine is still straight; it's not curved. It makes no mention of a dip or not." (Yes, I get it's a sea-lawyered answer, but I was prepared to answer it quickly and honestly with my interpretation.) He also tried getting us to wear black shoes. He quickly changed his tune. By the end of the tour, we genuinely respected each other. Guess who anged more? CMC.

Story 2: PR Chief suddenly makes it mandatory for everyone to wear double hearing protection at FOD Walkdowns, completed before anyone else is even turning up an APU... ever. That means helmets for all my friends. He claims its a NAVOSH requirement or some BS. I end up looking into it, finding the exact dB level at which it's required, show him that an H-60 at whatever distance isn't required, and he is just absolutely stunned. He relents, admits he made it up, didn't even know the regulation existed, but said he was doing it for the best of everyone (which I get, but it was annoying signing gear out, waiting 10 minutes to sign it back in as the whole squadron filed through the PR shop etc.), and ends up changing the rule back to making it optional.

And if you don't know the rule, don't look up that shit yourself. Ask them to give you the reference. If they're full of shit they'll back down. If they have a ref, then you both might learn something. Whether or not you choose to adhere is about battle picking. Or change the reference if you can.

 

[DanMa1156]

You have to sign out your own gear? WTF?

My fleet PR shop did, yes.

 

[Hotdogs]

You have to sign out your own gear? WTF?

Standard. In RW-Land our gear isn’t custom fit for our bodies. When your gear goes down, So does your ability to fly. Not so much in RW Land. So when the ALSS shop in a VMM(REIN) deploys with a potential 4-5 TMS and 100+ pilots and aircrew. There needs to be a way of tracking RFI gear being assigned to a specific person so some Crew Chief doesn’t go into the drink with an empty HABD bottle or unusable LPUs. Also try organizing an inspection cycle for all ALSS gear with that many pilots....(Hint: It’s a shitshow). Tracking what is up and down is difficult with a usually undermanned, overworked, and under appreciated ALSS shop.

In jet land, They probably do sign this stuff out, but it is transparent to you. I am pretty sure it’s required by the 4790 for all communities, but I could be wrong on that.

 

[DanMa1156]

Standard...Tracking what is up and down is difficult with a usually undermanned, overworked, and under appreciated ALSS shop.

THIS. We rarely had more than 1 or 2 PR's that were qualified, let alone above the rank of PRAN. In my entire fleet tour, I didn't see a single PRC or higher.