Interesting ATC clip

[Brett327]

Moving back to the comm differences theme....Why do P3s spend so much time on VHF around the field? It creates a huge SA sump for everyone else in the airspace when you're only hearing one side of conversation (the controller simulcasting on UHF and VHF). I've heard that the airplane has maint issues with its UHFs... Can they not be fixed? With all of the stuff that the P3s do on and around the runways (roll and goes, back taxis, practice aborts, etc etc etc) it would sure make it easier / safer for all other concerned parties to be on the same freq - on the same freq excercising comm brevity of course.

Concur. It was that way in JAX as well. I've been out of the community for 12 years, but there were at least 2 UHF radios and I've never heard that it was a maint issue. Any VP dudes care to shed some light here?

Brett

 

[MasterBates]

Not sure but it is annoying.. The USCG in both JAX and Corpus do the same thing.. You hear one side of it, or quite often tower bitches at you for stepping on CG XXXX even though you never heard them.

The Block-1 60B's have VHF/UHF radios but we always used UHF at military fields, and VHF at civvie fields..

 

[Gatordev]

Moving back to the comm differences theme....Why do P3s spend so much time on VHF around the field? It creates a huge SA sump for everyone else in the airspace when you're only hearing one side of conversation (the controller simulcasting on UHF and VHF). I've heard that the airplane has maint issues with its UHFs... Can they not be fixed? With all of the stuff that the P3s do on and around the runways (roll and goes, back taxis, practice aborts, etc etc etc) it would sure make it easier / safer for all other concerned parties to be on the same freq - on the same freq excercising comm brevity of course.

Hmmm, this sounds like a familiar question, not to mention a wise one. Must be that Gator training...

They actually built the rule into K-Bay's course rules so that everyone "SHALL" be on UHF if the aircraft is capable. On more than one occasion, there's been some near misses due to someone being on the GCA and someone turning downwind (99.9% of the time the two are going in the opposite direction) and "someone," you can guess who, is up VHF.

 

[Brett327]

Hmmm, this sounds like a familiar question, not to mention a wise one. Must be that Gator training...

They actually built the rule into K-Bay's course rules so that everyone "SHALL" be on UHF if the aircraft is capable. On more than one occasion, there's been some near misses due to someone being on the GCA and someone turning downwind (99.9% of the time the two are going in the opposite direction) and "someone," you can guess who, is up VHF.

Sounds like an issue for the NASWI Commodores' meeting.

Brett