Interesting NPR story on USS Bancroft

[phrogpilot73]

As to making USNA more like the fleet and there being no "direct training correlation to the fleet", I leave that easy argument to others. Still, one wonders if the Supe ever experience frivolity and tradition in the fleet. Is he not a shell back? Has he never witnessed foc'sle follies? I propose a training event at the USNA to prepare mids for a crossing the line ceremony so that they are better prepared for the fleet because there would be demonstrative correlation to that fleet activity.

Probably not, since I don't think there is a foc'sle on a submarine...

 

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Probably not, since I don't think there is a foc'sle on a submarine...

He is a very senior officer in the Navy. He has been around more then just subs.

 

[HH-60H]

Update on Herndon:
I have a teammate who is the Herndon CO...

What is that?

 

[phrogdriver]

Those mids they interviewed really toed the party line...fine hinges in the making!:icon_wink

 

[cfam]

What is that?

They have a firstie especially in charge of Herndon this year.

 

[a_m]

They have a firstie especially in charge of Herndon this year.

ghey

 

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ghey

Agree. We had a meeting with the dant last week, and she mentioned that Herndon wasn't such a big deal when she was here, so she couldn't understand why everyone cared about it so much now. She even specifically mentioned the article posted earlier, and said that the alum quoted was separated after two years, so we shouldn't believe that climbing Herndon really has that much of a impact on our development as leaders.

For the older usna alums...was it a big deal when you guys were here? I wasn't sure if what she was saying was a load of sh^t or not.

 

[a_m]

Herndon was pretty big as of 2002 (when 05 was plebes). I mean, it wasn't like the yard revolved around it, but it was definately the second biggest event from dead week/graduation week-outside graduation, of course.

 

[DSL1990]

She even specifically mentioned the article posted earlier, and said that the alum quoted was separated after two years, so we shouldn't believe that climbing Herndon really has that much of a impact on our development as leaders.

what a nasty dig at that alum!

 

[a2b2c3]

Why do people always worry about Herndon or the Academy rules or even the Academy in general? People complain and talk about their miserable time there and then seem so focused on the place after they leave.

It's the general principle that it's a great place to be from but a horrible place to be. Never changes. Every one wants to see the place change for the better but no one can ever quite agree what that is and everyone wants a say about what can be changed. Seriously it'd almost be better if they just let the alumni vote on changes there. It'd take forever but it'd be better.

 

[Flash]

Agree. We had a meeting with the dant last week, and she mentioned that Herndon wasn't such a big deal when she was here, so she couldn't understand why everyone cared about it so much now. She even specifically mentioned the article posted earlier, and said that the alum quoted was separated after two years, so we shouldn't believe that climbing Herndon really has that much of a impact on our development as leaders.

For the older usna alums...was it a big deal when you guys were here? I wasn't sure if what she was saying was a load of sh^t or not.

What is the Commandant's rep in the E-6 community?

As far as I can tell from cursory searching on the internet, and my own hazy memories from growing up near Annapolis, Herndon has been a big deal since before she graduated. Anyone from her era at USNA want to comment, or admit to it?

 

[phrogpilot73]

As far as I can tell from cursory searching on the internet, and my own hazy memories from growing up near Annapolis, Herndon has been a big deal since before she graduated. Anyone from her era at USNA want to comment, or admit to it?

I'm not from her era, but it was a big deal when I went there. We also sponsored mids from the class of '85 onward, and it was always a big deal for them. If you ask my Dad (he's class of '63), it was a big deal. As a matter of fact, they did it after graduation and climbed it (ungreased) in uniform. Quick web search indicates from USNA's own website yields a picture that indicates it was probably a big deal. Here's a picture circa 1958 (20 years before the Supe, and 23 years before the commandant graduated):

Original photo and timeline located here.

 

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Original photo and timeline located here.

If you look closely you can see a guy getting his neck scratched and another mid getting his foot stepped on. I can't believe they didn't show more concern for safety back then. What were they thinking?

 

[insanebikerboy]

This just supposedly is a continuation of making the Academy more like the Fleet, and Herndon has no "direct training correlation to the fleet" according to the Administration.

So, have they gotten rid of chow calls and chopping, b/c last time I checked I've never seen that in the Fleet.

 

[phrogpilot73]

So, have they gotten rid of chow calls and chopping, b/c last time I checked I've never seen that in the Fleet.

When's the last time you did a p-rade in the fleet? Scrap them as well.