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June 2010 Boards
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marmoset54
Final Select Supply Corps
Bumped from May Boards to June...at least I only need to wait another month. After the first, ain't no thaaaaang.
SNFO/SWO/SUPP
26/M
53 5/6/5
3.41 UGPA Ancient History - Tulane University cum laude
A few little scholarships
Internships during senior year with Environmental Firms and Zoos
Grant recipient for work on the Congressional Medal of Honor
Guest lecturer at Wofford College, SC.
4.0 GGPA Military History - Tulane University
AmeriCorps Volunteer 1700 hours of community service Graduate
Tragicomic semester of law school (NOT the life I wanted)
Volunteer Work: Zoo Volunteer throughout High School, Habitat For Humanity
LORs: two former employers, two professors, one undercover narcotics police officer, one relative, and an O-8.
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SNFO/SWO/SUPP
26/M
53 5/6/5
3.41 UGPA Ancient History - Tulane University cum laude
A few little scholarships
Internships during senior year with Environmental Firms and Zoos
Grant recipient for work on the Congressional Medal of Honor
Guest lecturer at Wofford College, SC.
4.0 GGPA Military History - Tulane University
AmeriCorps Volunteer 1700 hours of community service Graduate
Tragicomic semester of law school (NOT the life I wanted)
Volunteer Work: Zoo Volunteer throughout High School, Habitat For Humanity
LORs: two former employers, two professors, one undercover narcotics police officer, one relative, and an O-8.
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EM1
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
Daniel-just an observation, but you just had eye surgery in January. Arent there minimum wait times before you are medically eligible to clear medical after that procedure? Doesnt excuse the recruiter for not keeping you up to date, but, that could be part of why you are not top priority right now and everything wasnt together for an earlier board.
Where is your recruiter out of? You said you left for Alaska for a few months?
Where is your recruiter out of? You said you left for Alaska for a few months?
Overlord243
Final-Select SNA 20 Feb 2011 OCS Date
2nd on that one. I could be wrong but I believe it's a 6 month wait before you can get a packet in after eye surgery. At least that was what I was told before I found out I have 25/20 vision and don't need surgery.....
Danielsw25
Member
Thanks for the responses all and I appreciate the support. I was very down when I wrote that and realize I was complaining a bit. A night to sleep it off and I feel better already. I'm just worried about the future boards being cancelled, which would make everything essentially a waste.
As for the eye surgery waivers, yes, the required wait is six months. However, the waiver is only necessary AFTER being pro-rec'ed, or so my recruiter told me. Essentially, I can send out my packet and when July 7th or whatever hits, get my waiver then. The purpose is obviously if there is a complication with the surgery, it would happen before it is the military's responsibility, which only makes sense.
Again, apologies for complaining, just figured the people here would understand and it was the day of.
eas, I agree with you about not burning the bridges. And especially about taking the responsibility to make stuff happen. I figured that out after missing the May board, so I really rode the OR to get into the June board. Assumed I had done that, but it wasn't enough. If it happens again, I will definitely burn some bridges to get stuff done.
nate_j, really? They'd give a damn about something like that?
EM, responded to your questions. I even had PRK done, which sucks worse than Lasik as it is a much worse healing process and the vision takes a while to come back, unlike Lasik which is overnight. Recruiter is in Sacramento. And yes, moved to Alaska. I realize that is inconvenient, but really it doesn't impact much as I can fill out all the documentation and stuff online or at least send it in by mail.
So, barring a miracle, won't be in the June board. But good luck to those who are!
As for the eye surgery waivers, yes, the required wait is six months. However, the waiver is only necessary AFTER being pro-rec'ed, or so my recruiter told me. Essentially, I can send out my packet and when July 7th or whatever hits, get my waiver then. The purpose is obviously if there is a complication with the surgery, it would happen before it is the military's responsibility, which only makes sense.
Again, apologies for complaining, just figured the people here would understand and it was the day of.
eas, I agree with you about not burning the bridges. And especially about taking the responsibility to make stuff happen. I figured that out after missing the May board, so I really rode the OR to get into the June board. Assumed I had done that, but it wasn't enough. If it happens again, I will definitely burn some bridges to get stuff done.
nate_j, really? They'd give a damn about something like that?
EM, responded to your questions. I even had PRK done, which sucks worse than Lasik as it is a much worse healing process and the vision takes a while to come back, unlike Lasik which is overnight. Recruiter is in Sacramento. And yes, moved to Alaska. I realize that is inconvenient, but really it doesn't impact much as I can fill out all the documentation and stuff online or at least send it in by mail.
So, barring a miracle, won't be in the June board. But good luck to those who are!
EM1
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
It's not realistic to expect any sort of med waivers that fast. You're on Navy time. There's no reason to be mad that you havent gone to a board yet, as 6 months is, well, not even here yet.
IMO when you get back down to CA I'd ask to do the med stuff before submitting the package. Is there a closer recruiter you can get together with? You're working with a very busy recruiting district, and the phrase "out of sight out of mind" may apply a bit.
Congressmen can do nothing unless the recruiter or the Navy is violating policy. That is not the case.
IMO when you get back down to CA I'd ask to do the med stuff before submitting the package. Is there a closer recruiter you can get together with? You're working with a very busy recruiting district, and the phrase "out of sight out of mind" may apply a bit.
Congressmen can do nothing unless the recruiter or the Navy is violating policy. That is not the case.
bwh06b
FS SNA
I went in to take the ASTB this Wednesday, and I did pretty well on it. The thing I did fail, however, was my body fat percentage measurements. This came as a slap in the face. I had previously been measured using a Bioelectrical Impedance device which measured me as being within the standards that the Navy requires. I had lost seven pounds by the time that I weighed in with my OR, but when he typed it all in to his spreadsheet to calculate my body fat he told me that I was at twenty-four percent. I in no way believe this to be the case, and this is going to keep me from going before the board in June.
There is a Human Performance Lab at one of the universities here in town that could measure me using Hydrostatic Weighing which is known to be much more accurate than simply being measured around the neck and midsection, and I want to give this a shot and see what numbers they come up with. My question for all of you is whether or not you think that I should pursue this in an attempt to get on the board in June or wait and lose the remainder of the weight (10 pounds) that I lack to be within standards. I just don't want to somehow piss off my OR and make it look like I was going against the system or against his measurements, but I really don't believe that I am at 24% body fat right now. Any opinions or recommendations as to how I should proceed would be appreciated.
There is a Human Performance Lab at one of the universities here in town that could measure me using Hydrostatic Weighing which is known to be much more accurate than simply being measured around the neck and midsection, and I want to give this a shot and see what numbers they come up with. My question for all of you is whether or not you think that I should pursue this in an attempt to get on the board in June or wait and lose the remainder of the weight (10 pounds) that I lack to be within standards. I just don't want to somehow piss off my OR and make it look like I was going against the system or against his measurements, but I really don't believe that I am at 24% body fat right now. Any opinions or recommendations as to how I should proceed would be appreciated.
EM1 makes an excellent point here. It goes back to burning bridges. If your congressman gets involved, and there is in fact no policy being violated. You've burned two bridges at once. The one with your congressman and your recruiter. Your problems are not unique, however, if they persist, I recommend you ask to speak with the OR's supervisor. That should be enough motivation for them to get their ass in gear.
I'll be honest with you bwh, it doesn't matter what your ACTUAL body fat percentage is, the military doesn't care. What does matter is that you're able to pass the tape test that they administer.. I too have used the bio-electrical impedance device to measure my body fat, been well below the required percentage, and still failed the tape test. The reasons for this can be many, but the important thing to remember is that you have to pass THEIR standard. What I recommend to you is to 1. Lose the weight or 2. Slim down to a point where you'll pass their tape test. I know that's easier said than done, but it's the same thing I've had to deal with for the Army for the past 7 years. Cardio and health eating are the two keys. If you're going to lift weights, go for light weight and high reps.
bwh06b
FS SNA
eas,
That was sort of my thinking. Thanks for the input. I know I'll be able to lose the weight and get down by the time I go back in to weigh next month, but I just really hated the fact that it was going to push me back one more month with the boards. I wanted to try to go for it any way I could, but I do understand and respect that they have their system in place, and that is the system which I have to adhere to.
That was sort of my thinking. Thanks for the input. I know I'll be able to lose the weight and get down by the time I go back in to weigh next month, but I just really hated the fact that it was going to push me back one more month with the boards. I wanted to try to go for it any way I could, but I do understand and respect that they have their system in place, and that is the system which I have to adhere to.
I'll be honest, the system for measuring body fat is absolutely terrible. The great thing about it is, it can be administered with minimal training and produces marginally accurate results. Yes, people do slip through the cracks, and sometimes they are unfairly punished, but overall, it's the best system we have. My hope is that one day, the military will invest in electronic measuring devices, such as what we've already discussed. I don't see this happening any time soon, however.
Best of luck to you. I know how hard the waiting game can be!
Best of luck to you. I know how hard the waiting game can be!
james23
New Member
Aw man, now I am starting to get worried. I am 72 inches and at 200 pounds... (barely making cut off at 201 pounds) but I don't know if I am going to make the body fat percentage... I lift weights a lot so I guess that's is why I got so bulky... What do I have to do to make sure I pass the body fat/weight scale test.
bwh06b
FS SNA
james,
When I went in for the test and to weigh I knew that I had a few pounds to lose, but I just definitely didn't agree with where he was measuring me to be. That was the problem. If you are that close to the cutoff point then I would probably just try and drop a couple of pounds more to ensure that you're below the weight measurement, get in there and weigh early in the morning before eating a large meal, and then you'll be fine so you won't have to be taped. I'm sure you'll be fine when you get in there, though.
james23
New Member
Do you get taped if you don't pass the weight scale test? (normal weighing scale, my cut off is suppose to be 201 pounds for 72 inches.) Or do you get taped no matter what? I am starting to get nervous ... ahh thanks!
boogerbrain
New Member
James, after originally taking my ASTB test (14th December 2009) I was measured and found to not fall into Navy regulations. I am 5'9 and at the time I weighed 215 lbs. My waist (around the naval) was around 40 inches and my neck was around 16 (like you, I exercise quite a bit and am built like an amateur wrestler). I remember complaining to one of my LORs (Army O-6) but he would have none of it and told me, "If you want to be an officer, you'll find a way to lose the weight." So, I changed my diet and started consuming a larger amount of veggies during all meals and am currently down to 195 lbs. (after cutting some water weight: I probably look like an idiot with a sauna suite, sweat shirt, and winter jacket on doing a three mile walk around the neighborhood on a 80 degree sunny day) and my waist is now 35 inches around the naval with a 16 inch neck. 185 lbs is still my goal in the long run, but it will take some more time to get there. If you want to be an officer, you'll find a way to fall under regulations as well. Will it suck? Probably. But if you want it, you'll find a way.
You can always measure yourself by using this calculator:
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
To correctly measure yourself, watch the videos here (look at the demonstration videos near the bottom):
http://www.ocs.navy.mil/pt.asp
p.s. It should be noted I became extremely lazy after graduating (May 2009). I wasn't motivated to work-out, couldn't afford my BJJ/Muay Thai classes anymore, and ate like a pig. By the beginning of September 2009 I had blimped up to 240 lbs.