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Just watched Shuttle Launch

Goober

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There was a pair of twin dual designator (flight surgeon/pilot) dudes in JAX during my VP days. I wonder if they're the same guys. PM me if you remember their names. Goober, weren't you in JAX VP in the early 90s? Remember those guys?

Brett

I might have seen one around. I've known two VS guys (NFO) who switched to the "doc side" and have run into them both since I commissioned. Kay Hire was an NFO at VP-62 (her name's public record from the NASA site so no panicking to edit) when I was at -62 in '94, and she's now an astronaut. According to the NASA site, she rode on Columbia back in 1998 as a mission specialist.

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/hire.html
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
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Go ride mission to space in Epcott, Orlando. Feels just like the real thing ;-)
 

Fly Navy

...Great Job!
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Isn't that the ride where that kid died? Crazy. http://www.local10.com/news/4605237/detail.html

And thanks to the ppl who answer my question. I feel less like a retard now.

EVERY person, to my recollection, that has died on the Disney rides this year had a health problem. Some of them were KNOWN and the WARNINGS were ignored at the rides. They died from their own stupidity. Whether the last boy and family knew he had a heart problem or not... not sure. If they didn't know... they didn't know and that sucks.
 

Brett327

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I would think it would almost be easier as a pilot. How many of us are there compared to doctors? I don't know if you have to be a FS, but there are an a$$load of doctors out there. Plus, the have two pilots per launch (plus back-ups). How many FS jobs do they have?

Anyway, good on him for sticking with it and getting what he wanted. Personally, the whole program sounds like a 3 year brief for a 3 day flight. Not my bag. Plus, it's probably not as much fun as it looks to those of us who are on the outside (launch and landing aside).

I suspect getting a shuttle pilot slot would be a challenge for non-TACAIR guys. As an aside, Willie McCool, of Columbia infamy, was a Prowler pilot.

Brett
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
I suspect getting a shuttle pilot slot would be a challenge for non-TACAIR guys. As an aside, Willie McCool, of Columbia infamy, was a Prowler pilot.

Brett

At the NASA El Paso hangar they have a picnic table that all the shuttle pilots carve their names in when they're there for training. I saw his name there "highlighted". Cool, but sad and kind of spooky.

Do you not consider EA-6Bs TACAIR? Scott Carpenter was a Patrol guy, but that was back in the day.
 

kray1395

Active Member
I suspect getting a shuttle pilot slot would be a challenge for non-TACAIR guys. As an aside, Willie McCool, of Columbia infamy, was a Prowler pilot.

Brett

I'm not sure about how much a challenge it is for non-TACAIR guys, but it happens on a fairly regular basis. The last mission, STS-114, included the mission commander, Col. Eileen Collins, a C-141 driver, and Capt. Wendy Lawrence, who has time in 6 different Naval helicopters.

The current mission has an NFO aboard in Cdr. Lisa Nowak. She has time as a TACAIR NFO but after her first fleet tour, she spent much of the rest of her carreer in testing and evaluation.

So to sum up, there is hope for all you female, non-TACAIR, NFO's.
 

FlytheBall

Maybe, maybe not, maybe go fvck yourself.
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To be an astronaut, yes anyone can do it. But to be a pilot, you have to be a tacair guy, or a guy with tactical jet hours. All Nasa shuttle pilots are former military jet pilots. There has only been one civilian pilot in the history of Nasa. Could you imagine how rich you must be to get all that jet time. Per Nasa's website you need at least 1000 hours of jet time and flight test experience is highly desired. Also you need a BS in some science or math field and at the minimum and probably a MS in same said fields to even be competitive. The astronaut I know was number one in his class at the academy, sergrad, distinquished grad of TPS and went on to be one of 5 test pilots for the super hornet. Bottom line, you have to be sh!t hot.
 

Brett327

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At the NASA El Paso hangar they have a picnic table that all the shuttle pilots carve their names in when they're there for training. I saw his name there "highlighted". Cool, but sad and kind of spooky.

Do you not consider EA-6Bs TACAIR? Scott Carpenter was a Patrol guy, but that was back in the day.

Sure, Prowlers are TACAIR - just firgured it was a good place to mention McCool.

Brett
 
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