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LEGAL performance enhancing dietary supplements

Ken_gone_flying

"I live vicariously through myself."
pilot
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Good evening air warriors. I was just curious and wondering if anyone had any insight on this. Does anyone know if there is a possibility that legal over the counter performance enhancing dietary supplements, sold at GNC, such as creatine and nitric oxide supplements could make an individual fail a urinalysis? I know that the urinalysis tests for specific drugs and substances, such as marijuana, extacy, and other widely used illegal drugs, but are they sensitive enough to pop for legal supplements? I will have my MEPS appointment in the next two weeks and stopped using my supplements last week just to be safe, but just curious if anyone has heard anything about that. Thanks.


-Ken
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
pilot
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Double edged sword here. I don't have a link but a thread earlier talked about it, I believe scoober78 put a link up that has the regs for aircrewman.

The long and short, some of the stuff like creatine isn't "illegal" for the average Joe for a whiz quiz but it's on the list of prohibited items for aircrew.

The way our flight doc explained it to me, about the only thing allowed is protein powder, other than that it's not allowed.
 

squorch2

he will die without safety brief
pilot
You can also take a daily multivitamin. Everything else is verboten while in a flight status, so sayeth the docs.
 

PropStop

Kool-Aid free since 2001.
pilot
Contributor
you can take protein whey, but JUST whey. Those mass builders aren't legal.
 

Uncle Fester

Robot Pimp
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Most of the supplements on the market are either unproven, marginally effective or only really effective for certain specialized workouts (i.e., you're an Olympic-level triathelete or a serious contender for the cover of Muscle & Fitness). The side effects of just about all of them are enough to make the flight docs twitchy about aviators using them. I haven't heard of any that will make you pop positive (at least, any that are street-legal), but aviators are forbidden from using damn near anything other than a multivitamin.
 

bert

Enjoying the real world
pilot
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While those kinds of supplements are not tested for on a normal urinalysis, they can be tested for in post-mishap blood work. I don't know what the feeling is these days, but in the recent past self-medication (or banned supplements) = FNAEB.
 

Ken_gone_flying

"I live vicariously through myself."
pilot
Contributor
Thanks guys for the response. I used to be a COD aircrewman, so I am aware that it is prohibited to self medicate. However, I've been acivilian for the past year and a half so I'm legal :). Just didn't want to chance messing up my MEPS urinalysis.


The nitric oxide supplement I take actually works. It pretty much supplies more nutrients to the muscles and boosts the bodies natural nitric oxide output, allowing an individual to do the maximum possible reps. I only used it for a month and noticed a clear difference. It does require hard work. If you don't work out hard, it won't do anything for you. Thanks again everyone.


-Ken
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
The flight surgeons have given me some "supplements" when I have had injuries, but the bastards take them away when I heal..

Of course I did have the cool doc that reccomended I take full advantage of some of the side effects of the meds I was on.
 
You can also take a daily multivitamin. Everything else is verboten while in a flight status, so sayeth the docs.

I assume something more specific than a multivitamin, like Calcium + Vitamin D, is also ok? What are the rules for vitamins and calcium etc. while at OCS?
 

feddoc

Really old guy
Contributor
Do a search for the NOMI waiver guide. At that link, you can find what is/isn't allowed wrt supplements. As I recall the only two allowed, for Aviators, besides multivitamins, are saw palmetto and protein powder.
 

FlyMikeFly

Happiness is Vectored Thrust
pilot
Contributor
I am a true believer that NOTHING replaces hardwork when it comes to fitness. You just have to have the mental discipline to work a little bit harder every time you train, and also to eat right always. It's not easy, and there are no "magic pills".

Check out www.rosstraining.com for more on how to train like a champ!
 
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