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Looking for gouge? Ask your Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation here (Part 1)

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Nose

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I looked up this designation, and it coincided nicely with an earlier discussion on this thread that bothered me. I had always assumed that carrier-based pilots would practice traps somewhere before going to an actual ship, but apparently they just Field Qual instead. So was AVT-16 used to practice landings with wires, or was it basically the same as the current Outlying Fields? Why was this practice stopped (money and lack of surplus WWII CVs in good shape would be my guesses)?

The CQ phase of training (in both the training command and the RAGs) involves FCLPs at a field (sometimes "Outlying" sometimes not) and then Qual on a carrier. There are no traps involved in the field qual process, only flying the pattern and then flying the ball to a touch and go (or waveoff!) to a painted carrier box on a regular runway.

Lexington was obviously an active duty carrier during WWII, replacing her namesake who was sunk in the Battle of Coral Sea.

She served as the training carrier from 1962 until decommed in 1991. I CQ'd on her in 1988 in T-2's.
 

Achilles

That dog won't hunt, Monsignor!
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Sometimes when I see videos/pics of squadrons I see some guys in custom color flight suits and others in olive. I assume the new guys are the ones in olive, but at what point does one rate wearing the squadron colors flight suit?
 

cosmania

Gitty Up!
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It's a uniform, thus the squadron should have uniformity. We used to have "Friday Flight Suits" that were usually special in some way. Ours were Olive, but embroidered vice having patches. VF-213 had blue flight suits for Fri. I think the VF Gamecocks had red flight suits. VF 31 had black flight suits. It had very little to do with new, unless they took a long time getting there from the supplier.
 

Nose

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Sometimes when I see videos/pics of squadrons I see some guys in custom color flight suits and others in olive. I assume the new guys are the ones in olive, but at what point does one rate wearing the squadron colors flight suit?

I've never heard of a "time in squadron" requirement. I'm willing to be that guys in the green bags when everyone else is in orange/black/tan whatever are the guys who are too stupid to read the flight schedule to see what to wear that day for the photo. Or they are new, custom bags on order but not arrived yet.

Or they could be dorks.
 

MasterBates

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Nominally, you get "gucci" stuff when the squadron has some 7F Funds to blow (I think that is the right code).. Also when we were supposed to go do something really cool that did not happen, we got black suits, black gloves and I think they Black AIrsaves came in but never got built.. But that was another pot of money.

Some old-tyme colors (Orange) I have not personally seen other than an OIC that was Huey pilot with VC-6 in Antarctica before they decommed and he became an HSL guy.
 

FLYTPAY

Pro-Rec Fighter Pilot
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Some old-tyme colors (Orange) I have not personally seen other than an OIC that was Huey pilot with VC-6 in Antarctica before they decommed and he became an HSL guy.
Orange is for test pilots.

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Nose

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I would also argue that because to outsiders, you look like a bag of ass... But you're allowed to, and they're some damn comfortable!


Outsiders don't like bags? Don't know where you've been hangin out, but "chicks dig 'em".
 
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