Major Housing Update

[e6bflyer]

You might argue that- But I woulda argue that having my wife with me was a good thing.
I didn't try going thru the school house single-so I'm not going to talk about how it was. Did you have a significant other at flight school?? If you did-You should be offended that everyone put you on the "probably will fail" list without even knowing you. If you didn't-You probably shouldn't talk about how it was to have all that "dead weight".

I know plenty of single guys who didn't finish- but I did, with my wife and my new kid. It's about the mindset, not the life circumstances.

Me-ow! Rob can correct me if I am wrong, but I think he was just making a generalization. I think your flame is a little out of the blue. I also went through with a family, but I would never begrudge someone their opinion that doing it another way is better.
Sounds like you have an axe to grind with someone, and I don't think they are here.

 

[robav8r]

It's about the mindset, not the life circumstances.

Exactly. Not trying to squeeze everyone into "my" opinion, just expressing one that is contrary to yours. And, for the record, I have seen several folks who were more focused/concerned on their fiance/girlfriend/boyfriend/dog/cat/whatever, than making it through flight school. So yes, while there are very capable, motivated folks who can perform with a family in tow, great ! But I stand by my general comment that a lot of folks (insert whatever % is appropriate) are better served going it alone.

 

[squorch2]

Factors that indicate you will (statistically) have a tougher time in flight school:

1) Married
2) Kids
3) Prior enlisted

No joke.

 

[robav8r]

1) Married - check
2) Kids - check
3) Prior enlisted - check

Yep, I had all three strikes against me, hence my opinion

 

[ea6bflyr]

Factors that indicate you will (statistically) have a tougher time in flight school:

1) Married
2) Kids
3) Prior enlisted

No joke.

Yep, I had all three strikes against me, hence my opinion

That's funny, because I had no problems in flight school. I had all three "strikes" and ended up graduating #1 in my Strike class. I guess I am one of the 1%?

-ea6bflyr

 

[rondebmar]

Factors that indicate you will (statistically) have a tougher time in flight school: No joke.

1) Married---------Check - couldn't be married as a NavCad
2) Kids-------------Check - first one born two weeks after checkin' in @ P'cola
3) Prior enlisted---Check - radar operator with VQ-2 - Pro Pay in my rating & Flight Skins

Failed first two math tests ...passed final math test, and every written test thereafter, with no sweat - never got a "down" ...I enjoy being an exception to the rule!

 

[ea6bflyr]

Factors that indicate you will (statistically) have a tougher time in flight school:

1) Married
2) Kids
3) Prior enlisted

No joke.

By the way, where are you getting these "statistics' and what were the demographics?

-ea6bflyr

 

[Echo24]

By the way, where are you getting these "statistics' and what were the demographics?

-ea6bflyr

^^ Here comes the Airwarriors blast. Cannot wait to read!

 

[Sonog]

For those of us with serious gf's heading to OCS who know they have a good one, but are too broke for a rock.... is there a good/better time in flight school to have them move in? Distance between us would be 1300 miles.

 

[robav8r]

Yep, I had all three strikes against me, hence my opinion

and . . . . . my opinion is probably also framed by the fact that I was REALLY old compared to all the young studs/studettes that traditionally attend. I get if your a superstar you're gonna do just fine, with or without the fam, I guess in the end you just have to evaluate whether or not they will help or hurt you in flight school.

 

[ea6bflyr]

^^ Here comes the Airwarriors blast. Cannot wait to read!

No BLAST planned; Statistics usually cast many questions and doubts. If there is anything I learned in my STAT class, it's that you can make statistics support anything.

Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

There are three degrees of untruth,—a fib, a lie, and statistics.

-ea6bflyr

 

[e6bflyer]

Yeah, seriously. I did my VT tour and noticed absolutely no correlation between married, prior e, and having kids with attrition, not to mention that I was all of the above as a stud and did pretty well for myself. We attrited plenty of single kids at the deuce.

 

[squorch2]

By the way, where are you getting these "statistics' and what were the demographics?

-ea6bflyr

Taken from my past year as ASO at a training command. N=208, p<0.05 for those three factors when looking at downed flights, personal ORMs and HFBs. Factors not statistically significant were commissioning source, gender and service.

 

[squorch2]

I didn't consider attrition rates or NSS - just the amount of intervention that the stud needed from the command.

 

[squorch2]

Correlation isn't necessarily causation, could have been other factors not controlled for, etc. etc.