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Man Guns!

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metro

The future of the Supply Corps
No diggity. That P226 was incredible. I fell in love with the weight, the balance, and the trigger action. The pull was so nice, even, and substantial, with that nice, meaty "click/pop" with each pull. Crazy. I'm waxing almost romantic about a firearm. Talk like that might get me put in the Marines. :D
 

Fly Navy

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metro said:
No diggity. That P226 was incredible. I fell in love with the weight, the balance, and the trigger action. The pull was so nice, even, and substantial, with that nice, meaty "click/pop" with each pull. Crazy. I'm waxing almost romantic about a firearm. Talk like that might get me put in the Marines. :D

Buy it. DO IT NOW!

The P226 is one of the finest combat pistols out there. In fact, in my opinion, you can't beat it.

Just because you love guns doesn't mean you have to join the Marines!
 

metro

The future of the Supply Corps
Yeah, the SIG was definitely the one I preferred...I didn't get to fire it yet, but like I said, I knew enough from holding it and cycling it to know it was the one.

I guess that's why the SEALs carry them as sidearms. :D
 

squeeze

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Personally, I hate the Sig P226. IMO, HK USP's are better pistols for both accuracy and cost. I had a USP40 and loved it... someday I'll get another one or a Mk23, but up next is a Kimber.

/not a Sig fanboy
 

Grant

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Not really responding to anybody in particular, but thought I'd throw this out there. For the dollar, you really cant beat a Ruger. They are probably one of the best values out there. They make good handguns, particularly if you're a beginners. I have a 9mm Ruger P95, that I bought last week ($320 at Academy Sports). I took it to the range yesterday, and absolutely love it. They dont have the style/appearance or reputation of high dollar guns, but they are every bit as reliable and accurate in my opinion. Also, I like 9mm because ammo is so cheap. People say its weak... sure, compared to .45 ACP I guess you could say that, but its still nothing to laugh at. Just my $0.02.
 

VarmintShooter

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Yeah, I liked my old Ruger P-90. It did jam if I didn't keep it really clean, and it wasn't as accurate as the Kimber by a long shot, but it was a fun gun to shoot and was plenty good enough when I was first learning.

Plus it was all I could afford at the time.
 

Fly Navy

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That's true, Rugers do have a reputation as being built like tanks. They're ugly as sin though. The design people at Ruger have no idea what they're doing when it comes to their pistols. That being said, they're a good choice for someone who can't afford a SIG, HK, etc.
 

Grant

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Fly Navy said:
That's true, Rugers do have a reputation as being built like tanks. They're ugly as sin though. The design people at Ruger have no idea what they're doing when it comes to their pistols. That being said, they're a good choice for someone who can't afford a SIG, HK, etc.

Yeah, its not the coolest looking gun, but I like it. I really like the way it fits my hand. I didnt want to spend a ton on my first handgun, so the Ruger worked out nicely. :D
 

VarmintShooter

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I liked the way the Ruger fit my hand as well.

I really think that the 'fit' is the most important aspect of any gun. All of the big name brands (HK, SiG, Kimber, Colt, etc - not Beretta) are good quality ... go with the one that fits most comfotably.
 

A4sForever

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IT'S 100 YEARS "YOUNG" (ALMOST) AND STILL "FIRING" ON ALL CYLINDERS ....

Rugers are built like the proverbial brick "out" house. They provide outstanding value and performance.

But ... neither John Browning nor Will Rogers ever met Bill Ruger.

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And John Moses Browning was the "genius" behind the 1911, his pinnacle achievement among his other classic American firearms designs. I like Colt 1911/1911A1's, always have, always will. I carried one in Southeast Asia, and my Dad carried his in that really Big War #2. THEY --- 1911's and various clones --- still represent the head of the class. There are many "technically" superior firearms out there today, but many are/were based on 1911 characteristics and design. Ask most SpecOps types --- civilian or military --- who get to "choose" their personal weapons. Many (most?) still choose old "slab-sides".

Firearms are ALWAYS a compromise, of sorts. Price, size, function, "fit", even reputation and lineage play a part. So does emotion on the part of the owner.

Ammo? The 9mm Parabellum/Luger is a "good" round, as is the .40S&W. Like my former-SEAL Master Chief shipmate says, "when I put two 9mm's into your forehead, you won't know the difference." Having said that, he and I agree the .45 ACP is still the "American" classic. It is a slow, big bullet. As I stated in a previous post, I like bullets that make big holes, slowly.

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Now, isn't she pretty ???? Tell the truth ......
 

Fly Navy

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A4sForever, I love your posts. They're always full of interesting detail.

You're right, the .45 ACP is certainly the American classic. 9x19mm (let's see how many of its names we can use :)) is very much a European round, and has been around for nearly the same amount of time.

My next two "expensive" purchase (i.e. non-C&R firearms) will be a Springfield GI 1911 and a AK-clone (they'll keep my M1 Garand and AR-15 company).
 

NozeMan

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Hey all

I'm hitting the big 2-1 this summer and am definitely looking into picking up my first weapon. However, I really don't want to spend an incredible amount of money since it will be my first pistol (definitely under $400). I figured it should be a 9mm as well. Any suggestions on some models that I should look into? Do you reccommend that I go with a new or used weapon? I'm not a newbie to shooting, especially pistols. I used to compete with the .22.


....Rock the 2nd Ammendment!

-Noze
 

Grant

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Dont mean to threadjack, but... What do yall think of the Mini-14 and Mini-30? I was looking on through a catalog and noticed them, and they made me curious.

NozeMan said:
However, I really don't want to spend an incredible amount of money since it will be my first pistol (definitely under $400).

Like I've been saying, Ruger. You can get a brand new P-series pistol in the common calibers (.45 ACP, .40 S&W, 9mm) for under $400.
 

Fly Navy

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Grant said:
Dont mean to threadjack, but... What do yall think of the Mini-14 and Mini-30? I was looking on through a catalog and noticed them, and they made me curious.

From what I've read, it's a fun rifle, but not very accurate. Not something you're going to use as a serious target shooter. I've never shot one though, so I can't tell you from personal experience. Hopefully someone here will be able to tell you.
 

A4sForever

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Just Curious ......

Grant said:
Dont mean to threadjack, but... What do yall think of the Mini-14 and Mini-30? I was looking on through a catalog and noticed them, and they made me curious.
Y'all? Y'all?? There !!!! NOW You've gone and done it !!! Now we're all curious as to why you are curious ... I'm curious, too. I just got's to know ........

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A little more seriously, though, ask yourself: what do I (you) want the Ruger to do for y'all? Is it the price? Industrial-quality strength? Reliability? The list goes on ....

I used to have two (2) Mini-14's --- one Ranch model and one GB factory folder. I sold them both after shooting them a bit. Why? Because they were BORING !!! :sleep_125 They performed as advertised and never burped once. But I liked the AR series better in the same caliber --- why I do not know. One of those "esoteric" things, I guess. Y'all speak "esoteric" in Texas, don't ya? I guess the US military is esoteric about it, as well?

Bottom line for me: The Mini-14 was a nice, functional rifle in an affordable, plinking caliber. It remained in the gun safe more and more as the "pretty boys" went to the range. It is based on a more than half-centuty old design--Garand--and I decided I would rather have an M-1 instead of a Ruger if that was where I was going. But again, if cost is an issue --- and it was 15 years ago for a lot of police departments --- you can buy two Mini-14's for the price of one AR-style rifle.

You can also do a lot more modifications with the AR and parts and after-market add-ons AR(e) ---no pun intended --- more plentiful. I miss that "yall" stuff after spending 10+ years in the Great Republic of Texas. Once again, it all boils down to: What do you want your rifle to do for you? You then proceed from there .....
 
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